3-5-2c discussion

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

We have this as a policy as well. It dovetails (no pun intended) with the similar policy for having jersey tucked in. We will refuse entry if it is not tucked in when they are at the table and we will send them off to tuck it in if it keeps coming untucked during the game. They do get warnings from us but we have limits.

Jerseys not tucked in, etc, are a different animal, rules-wise. They are legal uniforms not being worn properly and are covered under rule 3-3-5. By rule, the player is supposed to leave the game. However, the most common procedure followed according to the many past threads that we've had on this is to refuse entry to a player without their shirt tucked in, but for players already in the game just tell 'em to re-tuck the jersey. You only send them out if they refuse to re-tuck 'em or they're continually un-tucking 'em. The rationale was the same cite I gave above, using the language "make it legal or leave the game". You can make sweatbands/jerseys/pants not being worn properly legal, but you can't make jewelry, unsafe equipment, etc. legal.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

By rule, the player is supposed to leave the game.

Doesn't this situation become difficult when the offending player is about to be awarded a free throw? Didn't we have a discussion about that specific situation a few years ago?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Doesn't this situation become difficult when the offending player is about to be awarded a free throw? Didn't we have a discussion about that specific situation a few years ago?

Found it:

*3.3.5 SITUATION A: B1 fouls A1. Just before A1 goes to the line for a one and
one, the official observes: (a) A1 pull the shirt out of his/her pants; or (b) A1’s
pants being worn below the hips. RULING: In both (a) and (b), A1 will be directed
to put the shirt in the pants or pull up the pants, and must leave the game
immediately following his/her last free throw(s). The lane is cleared for the free
throw and Team B is awarded the ball for a throw-in, whether or not the last free
throw is successful. COMMENT: A charged time-out by Team A does not alter the
requirement for A1 to leave the game.

The asterisk indicates a recent change. What changed?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Found it:

*3.3.5 SITUATION A: B1 fouls A1. Just before A1 goes to the line for a one and
one, the official observes: (a) A1 pull the shirt out of his/her pants; or (b) A1’s
pants being worn below the hips. RULING: In both (a) and (b), A1 will be directed
to put the shirt in the pants or pull up the pants, and must leave the game
immediately following his/her last free throw(s). The lane is cleared for the free
throw and Team B is awarded the ball for a throw-in, whether or not the last free
throw is successful. COMMENT: A charged time-out by Team A does not alter the
requirement for A1 to leave the game.

The asterisk indicates a recent change. What changed?

The "COMMENT" highlighted in red was added to the case play. The rest of it hasn't changed since it was put in 2-3 years ago.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The "COMMENT" highlighted in red was added to the case play. The rest of it hasn't changed since it was put in 2-3 years ago.

Muchas gracias.