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Old Sat Sep 11, 2010, 09:19am
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To clarify, here's what the 2010-2011 WIAA Handboook says concerning the Running Clock:

52.7.0 NFHS Basketball Rule 5-5-3, utilizing a 40-point differential, will apply for all regular season & postseason contests. Beginning in the second half, if the point differential is 40 points or more,
the game clock shall run continuously for the remainder of the game except for an official’s timeout, a charged time-out, time between quarters, or the administration of free throws.




Juggling, I'm asking the questions pertaining to Table Operations as I have been Timer/Scoreboard & Shot Clock.



How I am reading/understanding the rule/regulation, the clock shall remain running even if the point differential falls below 40. As the season draws nearer, hopefully I'll get some further clarification on what to do if the point differential is below 40.

Table operations for a running clock game? It is simple. Don't stop the clock.

Problem solved. Next thread.
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Old Sat Sep 11, 2010, 09:52am
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To clarify, here's what the 2010-2011 WIAA Handboook says concerning the Running Clock:

52.7.0 NFHS Basketball Rule 5-5-3, utilizing a 40-point differential, will apply for all regular season & postseason contests. Beginning in the second half, if the point differential is 40 points or more,
the game clock shall run continuously for the remainder of the game except for an official’s timeout, a charged time-out, time between quarters, or the administration of free throws.


Juggling, I'm asking the questions pertaining to Table Operations as I have been Timer/Scoreboard & Shot Clock.

How I am reading/understanding the rule/regulation, the clock shall remain running even if the point differential falls below 40. As the season draws nearer, hopefully I'll get some further clarification on what to do if the point differential is below 40.
You shouldn't need any clarification. The bold part is pretty clear, don't you think?

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Table operations for a running clock game? It is simple. Don't stop the clock.

Problem solved. Next thread.
What ^ he said.
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Old Sat Sep 11, 2010, 10:37am
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When you explain to the timer about the 45 point rule, make sure you use the term "point differential" and not "point spread".
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Old Sat Sep 11, 2010, 12:51pm
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When you explain to the timer about the 45 point rule, make sure you use the term "point differential" and not "point spread".
Why not? That's the way Tim Donaghy always explained it.
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Old Sat Sep 11, 2010, 02:36pm
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We have a running clock rule for tournaments only before February 1. It does not apply to any regular season games or normal state tournament games. The rule is a 30 point deficit in the 4th quarter. And if the score comes back to 29 points the clock still runs.

This is the only place I feel it is OK to have such a rule as basketball is a game with a clock that for the most part constantly runs. And the rule only applies if the tournament director allows for the rules to be in place. If they refuse then normal rules apply. I can see why this is the case as tournaments run a tighter schedule and it is not hard to get off schedule based on a long game.

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Old Sat Sep 11, 2010, 03:08pm
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When you explain to the timer about the 45 point rule, make sure you use the term "point differential" and not "point spread".
So what if in the middle of the game the point spread changes to 10?

O wait that only happens in Vegas though.
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Old Sat Sep 11, 2010, 11:03am
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Here, it's adopted at the league level in high school, and runs for everything but timeouts and quarter breaks.
It doesn't make sense to me to stop for free throws if you've decided to implement a mercy rule.
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Old Sat Sep 11, 2010, 03:06pm
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Table operations for a running clock game? It is simple. Don't stop the clock.

Problem solved. Next thread.
Constable, I am asking because of not seeing it actually implemented to have an understanding.

I was mentioning to Juggling about me being Table crew as the post s/he made was for a floor official.
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Old Sat Sep 11, 2010, 04:48pm
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DOn't know why you're having problems understanding it.

Stop it during timeouts and FTs, end of story.
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DOn't know why you're having problems understanding it.

Stop it during timeouts and FTs, end of story.
And even if you fail to do this properly, what are the consequences? The game is over, or the running clock wouldn't be in effect in the first place.
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Old Sun Sep 12, 2010, 02:23am
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DOn't know why you're having problems understanding it.

Stop it during timeouts and FTs, end of story.
Like I stated before, I am asking so that I can have a better understanding. I'm trying to get information from the local association as well when the season gets closer I will be asking the School AD about it.
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Old Sun Sep 12, 2010, 09:47am
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Like I stated before, I am asking so that I can have a better understanding. I'm trying to get information from the local association as well when the season gets closer I will be asking the School AD about it.
Yes, you've asked, it's been answered and you continued to ask. Why persist? What is it that you still don't understand?
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Old Sun Sep 12, 2010, 11:27am
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Yes, you've asked, it's been answered and you continued to ask. Why persist? What is it that you still don't understand?
Exactly. Plus, every state / league is slighlty different, so no one here (unless they are from WA *and* have insight beyond what is apparently posted) will be able to give any specific guidance.
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Old Sun Sep 12, 2010, 11:24pm
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In Washington, the running clock will only be used in the second half, will go into effect when the score differential is 40 or more points, and once started will not be changed back. The only time the clock stops is on time-outs, between third and fourth quarter, during free throws, or if there is an injury.

It really is that simple.
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Like I stated before, I am asking so that I can have a better understanding. I'm trying to get information from the local association as well when the season gets closer I will be asking the School AD about it.
Maybe you need to tell us what exactly it is that you need a better understanding of. Not stopping the clock is pretty dang easy. Stop it only when you are supposed to (sound like that means time outs and free throws in your area... just time outs here). What is there to understand. Trust me, if you ask your school AD how to not stop the clock, you're going to be laughed at... maybe not to your face, but it WILL happen.
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