HS Associations - Training Programs

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Who is worthy of the post-season assignments???

State tournament games are 100% based on coaches voting. Believe it or not, the coaches do a pretty good job. I've been around the block a few times and I'm pretty good at identifying good officials. We had about two dozen members selected for the high school tournament last season, and I can honestly say that I only questioned how one member got on that list.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

..... and I can honestly say that I only questioned how one member got on that list.

and yet, YOU refereed the game anyhow?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by grunewar

and yet, YOU refereed the game anyhow?

Hey. Rulz is rulz.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

State tournament games are 100% based on coaches voting. Believe it or not, the coaches do a pretty good job. I've been around the block a few times and I'm pretty good at identifying good officials. We had about two dozen members selected for the high school tournament last season, and I can honestly say that I only questioned how one member got on that list.

I have always had a huge problem with letting a coaches rating carry a lot of weight with postseason assignments. Coaches rate us on wins and losses period! You make a great call at the end of the game and all one coach remembers is that you screwed him and his team and your rating will show that. Coaches have no idea about most of the rules and they make that clear every week of the season. Why should any official’s postseason fate be determined by people who really don't have an idea about officiating.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I have always had a huge problem with letting a coaches rating carry a lot of weight with postseason assignments. Coaches have no idea about most of the rules and they make that clear every week of the season. Why should any official’s postseason fate be determined by people who really don't have an idea about officiating.

It's not a rating. It's a vote, pure and simple. The more votes you get, the deeper into the tournament you work.

I know it's hard to believe, but the coaches do a very good job of voting our best officials into the tournament every year. Yes, every year some good officials are left off the tournament list, there are just so many spots available. But every year the list is made up of our best officials. As I said in an earlier post, this past season there was only one name on the list that I thought didn't belong there. The season before I had no reservations about anyone on the tournament list.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I have always had a huge problem with letting a coaches rating carry a lot of weight with postseason assignments. Coaches rate us on wins and losses period! You make a great call at the end of the game and all one coach remembers is that you screwed him and his team and your rating will show that. Coaches have no idea about most of the rules and they make that clear every week of the season. Why should any official’s postseason fate be determined by people who really don't have an idea about officiating.

The advantage I can see to having Coaches vote would be that it is much harder for a referee to improperly "influence" enough coaches to make it to the tournament. In my state each association has an assignor and one or more evaluators. The Assignor and Evaluators recommend referees to the State. Local "friendship" makes a huge difference in who is promoted to the state and often is unrelated to ability.