HS Associations - Training Programs

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Absolutely not if you're talking about high school games here in the "Land of Steady Habits". As I've already stated in an earlier post, IAABO is a 100% IAABO state in the eyes of our state interscholastic sports governing body (CIAC). All high school games in the state are assigned by local (county) IAABO-hired commissioners.

On the other hand, there is nothing keeping you from working travel games, recreation games, some middle school games, and some AAU games, that are assigned by "independent" assigners.

It's frightening that an official can have 20+ years of experience working good HS varsity games in a non-IAABO area and pretty much not be able to continue his career in Connecticut. Who with that kind of experience (in their right mind) would be willing to come in and work 8 more years before having full varsity status?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's frightening that an official can have 20+ years of experience working good HS varsity games in a non-IAABO area and pretty much not be able to continue his career in Connecticut. Who with that kind of experience (in their right mind) would be willing to come in and work 8 more years before having full varsity status?

Not me. That is why I asked. And I am pretty sure that some JV ball is better around here than a good part of Connecticut. Not saying, just saying.

Peace

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not me. That is why I asked. And I am pretty sure that some JV ball is better around here than a good part of Connecticut. Not saying, just saying.

Peace

Hey, what are you saying?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's frightening that an official can have 20+ years of experience working good HS varsity games in a non-IAABO area and pretty much not be able to continue his career in Connecticut. Who with that kind of experience (in their right mind) would be willing to come in and work 8 more years before having full varsity status?

Actually four years at the least. If you're really that good, I'm sure that you would get a varsity loaded "split" schedule after only four years. Our commissioner has that power, if you're really that good. Still frightening, but maybe less so.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Actually four years at the least. If you're really that good, I'm sure that you would get a varsity loaded "split" schedule after only four years. Our commissioner has that power, if you're really that good. Still frightening, but maybe less so.

You're kidding, right? 4 years of low level basketball? I know it's important to pay your dues, but I've paid them, just not in your state.

I'm sure many (including me) would simply pack it in rather than enter a system where a quick placement evaluation wasn't done. 4 years? In most places, 4 years is enough to go from rookie to varsity official.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

You're kidding, right? 4 years of low level basketball? I know it's important to pay your dues, but I've paid them, just not in your state.

I'm sure many (including me) would simply pack it in rather than enter a system where a quick placement evaluation wasn't done. 4 years? In SoCal, 4 years is enough to go from HS rookie to D1.

There, fixed it for you.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by grunewar

There, fixed it for you.

That is the gift that keeps on giving.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is the gift that keeps on giving.

Peace

All we need now is a picture of the squirrel.

[CLH]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Actually four years at the least. If you're really that good, I'm sure that you would get a varsity loaded "split" schedule after only four years. Our commissioner has that power, if you're really that good. Still frightening, but maybe less so.

Four years? you're kidding right?

I was ranked #2 in chapter after four years...I was 23 and was crew chief in the Regional Finals for the next 3 years, along with working an NCAA schedule...Four years really? Sounds like your more concerned about protecting seniority than cultivating real talent. Just my opinion, not the gospel

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is the gift that keeps on giving.

Peace

Ed Zackery!

Originally Posted by RichMSN

All we need now is a picture of the squirrel.

Noooo!

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by CLH

Four years? you're kidding right?

I was ranked #2 in chapter after four years...I was 23 and was crew chief in the Regional Finals for the next 3 years, along with working an NCAA schedule...Four years really? Sounds like your more concerned about protecting seniority than cultivating real talent. Just my opinion, not the gospel

You have a long ways to go to catch up with Diebler.

[CLH]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

You have a long ways to go to catch up with Diebler.

Hey man, I'm trying...I'm trying....

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by CLH

Sounds like your more concerned about protecting seniority than cultivating real talent. Just my opinion, not the gospel.

Seniority has very little to do with game assignments. Rankings, based on ratings, dictate game assignments; number, level, and quality. Ratings are based on peer ratings (80%), refresher exam (5%), meeting attendance (5%), and availability (10%).

Peer ratings come from everyone who has seen you officiate. In a typical junior varsity/varsity double header, you usually get three ratings, from your partner, and from the two officials in the game before, or after, yours.

[CLH]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Seniority has very little to do with game assignments. Rankings, based on ratings, dictate game assignments; number, level, and quality. Ratings are based on peer ratings (80%), refresher exam (5%), meeting attendance (5%), and availability (10%).

Peer ratings come from everyone who has seen you officiate. In a typical junior varsity/varsity double header, you usually get three ratings, from your partner, and from the two officials in the game before, or after, yours.

So your peer rating...the opinions of either A: veterans who are worried about you taking their games or B: More "less than 4yrs served rookies like yourself" who don't need another guy moving up to take their games and don't have the knowledge to give a decent fair, unbiased rating towards you.

Availability? What does availability have to do with how well you officiate? So if I work a heavy NCAA, etc schedule I'm not as good as the high school guys who work every night of the week, thus I can't work a Varsity game because my availibility doesn't show me to be a qualified official.

Sorry my friend, but these "ratings" seem a bit flawed.

[Multiple Sports]

I assign another sport having 20 schools (V & JV).

Here is the million dollar question and I would love the feedback.

You have an above average hs. guy who works every tues / thurs / fri. and is

steady, but you have a "college guy", who gives you every friday and and

a couple days here and there. Who is worthy of the post - season

assignments??? High school guy is there 24/7 but college guy can do things

on the court that hs guy has no clue about. Mostly judgement and game

management.

Billy Mac - what do you get for your $35 dues from IAABO? Convention is

next weekend in Portland, Maine. Are the Pa guys who aren't IAABO any

worse than the Jersey guys who bleed IAABO ??? I am indifferent on the

subject.