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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by sseltser

I'm not sure what legal ramifications you are talking about, because I'm familiar with a system similar to Billy's and there have been no legal problems.

Restraint of trade laws probably vary from state to state. JRutledge is from Illinois, the "Land of Lincoln, and, "The Land of Rod Blagojevich".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Restraint of trade laws probably vary from state to state. JRutledge is from Illinois, the "Land of Lincoln, and, "The Land of Rod Blagojevich".

Billy I have been an official for 15 years and this was the same then (when a Republican Governor was in office). This is a heavy Union State and a lot of laws are here to protect workers from being taken advantage of. I am sure that is the origin of such laws because they go after organizations not individuals. This is why when we are paid we often fill out W-9 forms for many schools to make it clear they are playing us as an independent contractor. Also our issues were not just about who pays you, it was also what control they have over your schedule. The organization I was referring to also was controlling who an official worked for. If you are an independent contractor, you decide that, not an organization.

Also there was a state our west that was going through a legal challenge to their laws because organizations were paying their memberships. This was similar to what we were going through, but there is probably more case law or president to not have that kind of control. This is probably why our IAABO is non-existent in many things here.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We often fill out W-9 forms for many schools to make it clear they are playing us as an independent contractor.

When I started officiating about thirty years ago, we were only asked to fill out W-9's at the state technical schools. Then about fifteen years ago, were were asked to fill out W-9's at some "big city" schools. Now we are filling out these forms at about more than 50% of the schools that we service. Many of our members have become concerned about security regarding our Social Security Numbers. In many cases we are asked to complete these forms at the table, where they sit, open for anyone to see, until the end of the game, or, at best, halftime. We don't know where they go after the game.

Identify theft has become quite common. How is this handled in other parts of the country?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

When I started officiating about thirty years ago, we were only asked to fill out W-9's at the state technical schools. Then about fifteen years ago, were were asked to fill out W-9's at some "big city" schools. Now we are filling out these forms at about more than 50% of the schools that we service. Many of our members have become concerned about security regarding our Social Security Numbers. In many cases we are asked to complete these forms at the table, where they sit, open for anyone to see, until the end of the game, or, at best, halftime. We don't know where they go after the game.

Identify theft has become quite common. How is this handled in other parts of the country?

Well if we do not fill out the forms we will not get paid. I only fill them out when a person can get them quickly. But in some cases we have to send the information well before we get to the site.


Peace