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Old Mon Aug 02, 2010, 10:13pm
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You still didn't address my assumption directly. I'll change now, and assume that you weren't participating in chiding the official; at least on that particular play.

I'm a little testy about this subject this summer due to a situation here.

1. U (2 man) makes OOB call on end line opposite table in the 2nd half, ball to the defensive team.
2. R2 (for next game) is walking along the same endline, en route to the table to watch the rest of this game.
3. Coach of offensive team complains about call, ending with "Everyone saw it but you."
4. R steps in and warns coach to cool it.
5. R2, now sitting behind the offensive bench, exclaims "that was a crappy call."
6. R calls T on coach, as the comment came just as he turned away.
7. R retracts T after finding it was the official who made the comment.

While this situation was made worse by the fact that the official was wearing his stripes, in my opinion, the worst thing an official can do is bad mouth another official during a contest; especially when those around him know he's an official, regardless of the sport.
Hey Snaq I totally agree with you. I'm not one to undermine a fellow official in public like that. Doing the job has taught me otherwise.

No I was not one of the players yelling at the umpire, because I couldn't tell one way or the other.

The only time in this league I've ever spoken directly to an umpire about a call is this situation: My team is playing defense, and the batter hits a ball down the right field line. It falls in, really close to the line, probably right on the line. The umpire gives no signal. No point, no verbalization, nothing. I spoke to him after the game and asked him to do something next time so we know what's going on.
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Old Mon Aug 02, 2010, 11:28pm
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The only time in this league I've ever spoken directly to an umpire about a call is this situation: My team is playing defense, and the batter hits a ball down the right field line. It falls in, really close to the line, probably right on the line. The umpire gives no signal. No point, no verbalization, nothing. I spoke to him after the game and asked him to do something next time so we know what's going on.
That's the right mechanic. The only time an umpire is going to verbalize is on a FOUL ball. Fair ball, we play and nothing is said... Different sport, I know but that's just my 22 pesos.
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Old Tue Aug 03, 2010, 12:09am
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That's the right mechanic. The only time an umpire is going to verbalize is on a FOUL ball. Fair ball, we play and nothing is said... Different sport, I know but that's just my 22 pesos.
I know that nothing is said on a fair ball, but I was always taught that an umpire should just point to fair territory, not verbalizing "fair ball"
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Old Tue Aug 03, 2010, 08:11am
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I know that nothing is said on a fair ball, but I was always taught that an umpire should just point to fair territory, not verbalizing "fair ball"
You are correct. On any fair/foul call, the calling umpire should point the appropriate direction. Foul balls should also be verbalized.

In my experience, an umpire who doesn't signal is a newer umpire, so he is might not have seen it.
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Old Tue Aug 03, 2010, 12:20pm
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I know that nothing is said on a fair ball, but I was always taught that an umpire should just point to fair territory, not verbalizing "fair ball"



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You are correct. On any fair/foul call, the calling umpire should point the appropriate direction. Foul balls should also be verbalized.

In my experience, an umpire who doesn't signal is a newer umpire, so he is might not have seen it.
Yep, I stepped in it again... I focused solely on the verbal part and ignored the part about the point. You're right. Of course an umpire should point a fair ball. Mea culpa. Sorry.
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