camp do's & dont's

[DLH17]

Fantastic input. Thanks, All.

[bradfordwilkins]

Another thing -- and this is for NEXT YEAR --

Take notes and write them down -- revisit them during the year...

but more importantly, revisit them before you go to the same camp NEXT YEAR. The clinicians, if they are good, will remember where you were and needed to work on last year and will notice if you've spent the year working on them.

[dbking]

Here are my $.02

1. Referee your primary, when ball is not in primary, do not ball watch. Find the match ups in your area and commit to them 100% of the time.
2. Trust your partners, if they pass on a call that you think that you see, pass on it too. If you are going to go fishing outside of your primary, make sure it is a non basketball play of something that the primary official may not have a look at.
3. Step down on every shot from C and T.
4. All rebounding fouls should come from C and T. Work very hard at not calling this foul from L.
5. Mirror signals, this is a hard one to do but if your partner calls a foul and it is close to your primary just put a fist in the air and no whistle. This helps to sell the call to coaches and players.
6. Talk to players and coaches, help them to not call game interupters.
7. Have a patient whistle. If the ball goes in the hole and players played through the contact, play on.
8. Hustle
9. Be in position, move with a purpose to see between players in your primary.
10. Listen

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by dbking

5. Mirror signals, this is a hard one to do but if your partner calls a foul and it is close to your primary just put a fist in the air and no whistle. This helps to sell the call to coaches and players.
6. Talk to players and coaches, help them to not call game interupters.

Huh?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by smitty

huh?

+1

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by dbking

Here are my $.02

1) Mirror signals, this is a hard one to do but if your partner calls a foul and it is close to your primary just put a fist in the air and no whistle. This helps to sell the call to coaches and players.

2) Talk to players and coaches, help them to not call game interupters.

3) Have a patient whistle. If the ball goes in the hole and players played through the contact, play on.

And here's my questions:

1) Why should you try to sell the call when you didn't make it? Shouldn't the call sell itself?

2) I have no idea what you're talking about about. What is the "game interrupter" thingy that you're referring to?

3) Isn't all contact either illegal or incidental? How can "playing through ther contact" change illegal contact to incidental contact? Why should players have to play through anything that might slow them down, push 'em off-line, etc.?

[CLH]

Originally Posted by dbking

Here are my $.02

5. Mirror signals, this is a hard one to do but if your partner calls a foul and it is close to your primary just put a fist in the air and no whistle. This helps to sell the call to coaches and players.
6. Talk to players and coaches, help them to not call game interupters.
7. Have a patient whistle. If the ball goes in the hole and players played through the contact, play on.

5. NO! NO! NO! Absolutely do not do this. What are you going to do when you partner didn't really believe what he saw and passes it off to you? In a split second he's taken his eyes off the play, he's lost the number, you never had a number. There are a hundred things that could go wrong with this. Horrible advice db...Everyone please disregard this, it is not a good idea.

6. I have no idea what you're talking about

7. More bad advice, illegal contact must be penalized regardless of the outcome. If the contact is marginal, great play on. Waiting for the ball the go in basket is gutless officiating and is going to lead to problems and the death of you officiating aspirations.

I would usually apologize for sounding so rude, but this is just really bad advice and should be disregarded so I won't.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by CLH

7. More bad advice, illegal contact must be penalized regardless of the outcome. If the contact is marginal incidental, great play on. Waiting for the ball the go in basket is gutless officiating and is going to lead to problems and the death of you officiating aspirations.

Now I can agree with this. Sometimes, whether the contact is incidental or illegal requires us to wait for the outcome. By all means, have a patient whistle. That said, I do not wait to see if a basket is made. I see whether, and by how much, the shot is affected by the contact. If there's no significant negative impact on the shot, it's likely incidental. If there is, then foul.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Now I can agree with this. Sometimes, whether the contact is incidental or illegal requires us to wait for the outcome. By all means, have a patient whistle. That said, I do not wait to see if a basket is made. I see whether, and by how much, the shot is affected by the contact. If there's no significant negative impact on the shot, it's likely incidental. If there is, then foul.

Don't take this the wrong way, but that may be the smartest thing I have ever seen posted!!!!
It explains in a subtle way what could be called a "gamus interruptus" and pulls together nicely, 'marginal' into incidental contact. To some people these are the same thing, but this helps put everyone on the same page
< sniff sniff > I told myself I wouldn't cry < sniff sniff>

[Tio]

Have a good time. Be yourself. Go with an open mind to learn and the mindset that you will be a better ref when you leave.