"I'm 52 years old, and in all my years..."

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Really... after 5 pages of people calling you out, THIS is your defense for the lie? You sound like a buddy of mine who will wordsmith to death just to win an argument for the purposes of winning the argument... instead of actually making a point.

Are you really trying to tell me now, backtracking desperately, that you managed to work 16 games in a weekend without working "consecutive" or "multiple games in a row"? Really?

Come on. Jim Joyce made the biggest blunder in 25 years, and immediately owned his mistake. Stop wordsmithing, and admit that you at the VERY LEAST misled everyone. You asserted that you could work 16 games in 2 days "without slowing down". (You should certainly be able to see why one would assume that at least some of these were either consecutive or multiple games in a row (depending on who you are arguing with). This is why you're getting blasted, and are losing credibility in a fast ugly spiral.

so, in summary: you are calling me an "idiot" and a "liar"?

amazing

you put words into my mouth, then call me the liar

i asked you to back up what you claim i said. you can't do it.

i was very clear about those games. they were done in a 2 on 1 off format over two days. 3 one hour breaks both days between 2 game sets.

read the entire thread before calling me a liar

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DLH17

so, in summary: you are calling me an "idiot" and a "liar"?

If the shoe fits.

I called you an idiot because you claimed to never state you had worked multiple games and asked me/us to show you where you said it... I had no trouble finding it... you shouldn't have either. I'm calling you a liar for lying. That simple.

Originally Posted by DLH17

you put words into my mouth, then call me the liar

I put no words in your mouth. I quoted you.

Originally Posted by DLH17

i asked you to back up what you claim i said. you can't do it.

I truly have no idea what you're talking about now. I claim you said what you said in post 21. You did. You asked me to show you where you said you worked consecutive games ... I did. Perhaps the actual word "consecutive" was not in post 21 ... but I think it's a safe assumption that working 8 games in a day, you worked consecutive games, probably multiple times. I can't imagine a tourney playing 15 games in a day - which is what it would have taken for you to work 8 without working consecutively... And below you admit doing just that, so why are you still arguing this point?

Originally Posted by DLH17

i was very clear about those games. they were done in a 2 on 1 off format over two days. 3 one hour breaks both days between 2 game sets.

No ... you weren't. This is the VERY first time you've said it was 2 on 1 off. However - 2 on... isn't that "consecutive" or "multiple games in a row".

The LIE, sir, was telling us you worked 8 games on 2 consecutive days and NEVER SLOWED DOWN. You've even admitted as such since then. THIS was the point no one believed (and turned out to be untrue). THIS was why so many were jumping on you.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

The LIE, sir, was telling us you worked 8 games on 2 consecutive days and NEVER SLOWED DOWN. You've even admitted as such since then. THIS was the point no one believed (and turned out to be untrue). THIS was why so many were jumping on you.

Gotta disagree, slightly. To claim it was a lie implies an intent to deceive. Frankly, I think he just misspoke. He admitted to being less than clear, not to lying.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by rsl

By my math, 2 on 1 off format leads to an 11 hour day. I cannot even sit at my desk and work for 11 hours straight without a loss of mental concentration.

Add me to the list of those with at least suspended disbelief.

read the thread....here's what i posted earlier:

Originally Posted by DLH17

20 min halves...running clock, except last 2 mins of each half. clock runs when lead hits 15 pts. standard mayb stuff. 3 gyms in separate bldgs on the same campus were used.

saturday sched: 10a/11a on, 12p off, 1p/2p on, 3p off, 4p/5p on, 6 off, 7p/8p on

sunday sched: 10a/11a on, 12p off, 1p/2p on, 3p off, 4p/5p/6p on

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DLH17

read the thread....here's what i posted earlier:

A) How does this differ from what he said (i.e. what was the point of this rebuttal)? He said 11 hours, you show 11 hours. Same.

B) This is not 8 games on Saturday and 8 games on Sunday.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

A) How does this differ from what he said (i.e. what was the point of this rebuttal)? He said 11 hours, you show 11 hours. Same.

B) This is not 8 games on Saturday and 8 games on Sunday.

It's not necessarily a rebuttal. He said he was a suspended disbeliever. So, I gave him my schedule. We had three gyms going that day. 2 friends worked the same schedule on one of the other two courts. In years past, we've traveled out of town to MAYBs where we've done between 20-25 games each from Friday afternoon through Sunday afternoon. Opportunities to do 2 on 1 off are plentious. No big deal. Lots of fun. Good chance to stay in shape. Earn some bucks.

Yea, I worked 15 instead of 16 last weekend...shoot me.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DLH17

It's not necessarily a rebuttal. He said he was a suspended disbeliever. So, I gave him my schedule. We had three gyms going that day. 2 friends worked the same schedule on one of the other two courts. In years past, we've traveled out of town to MAYBs where we've done between 20-25 games each from Friday afternoon through Sunday afternoon. Opportunities to do 2 on 1 off are plentious. No big deal. Lots of fun. Good chance to stay in shape. Earn some bucks.

Yea, I worked 15 instead of 16 last weekend...shoot me.

Ah, I see.

I don't believe he was disbelieving that you worked 8 in 11 --- I believe he disbelieved the rest of your assertions.

Let me just leave it as this... if you truly worked as hard as you say during game 1 and game 15 of this marathon, then you are Superman and I applaud you. The reason you're getting so much disbelief is that most of us have done marathons ourselves ... and MOST of the officials who would bother to spend time on a board like this are not the lazy bumpkins you mentioned in some of this thread - and our experience tells us that you just can't work that hard all the time during a marathon. This is why a few said you need to NOT work that hard at the beginnings - taking some shortcuts that don't negatively affect the game - so that you can be at your best at the end - the games that matter the most.

And again, my apologies for the blatant name-calling. It was uncalled for.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Ah, I see.

I don't believe he was disbelieving that you worked 8 in 11 --- I believe he disbelieved the rest of your assertions.

Let me just leave it as this... if you truly worked as hard as you say during game 1 and game 15 of this marathon, then you are Superman and I applaud you. The reason you're getting so much disbelief is that most of us have done marathons ourselves ... and MOST of the officials who would bother to spend time on a board like this are not the lazy bumpkins you mentioned in some of this thread - and our experience tells us that you just can't work that hard all the time during a marathon. This is why a few said you need to NOT work that hard at the beginnings - taking some shortcuts that don't negatively affect the game - so that you can be at your best at the end - the games that matter the most.

And again, my apologies for the blatant name-calling. It was uncalled for.

I unconditionally accept your apology. Water under the bridge going fwd.

side note: please know that i never ever called out anyone on this forum as being lazy or lacking hustle. that was all centered around one of the guys that officiated my daughter's game a few weeks ago who i'd never met. get this - he was the third man in my group of 3 that did that 2 on 1 off. no lie. it was a hoot. i never brought it up. just played it cool and had fun.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Water under the bridge going fwd.

Works for me. Do we hug now?