"I'm 52 years old, and in all my years..."

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

When your criticism of other officials is that they do not switch during dead balls and do things like bump and run during summer ball that sounds like you are saying are perfect to me.

The point is you are criticizing this guy for criticizing other officials, when you were guilty of exactly the same thing. Then, as is so often the case, when called on it, you disappear from the thread.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The point is you are criticizing this guy for criticizing other officials, when you were guilty of exactly the same thing. Then, as is so often the case, when called on it, you disappear from the thread.

Dude, you really need to let it go. Whatever you think I need to verify for you is not going to happen. Actually the situation is not even close the same thing. One was about a person that made comments about people he came in direct contact with. The other was for comments made on this board and this board only. I almost never talk about partners that I work with here and I never will. Because if I were to say something about someone here, it could be verified and I do not want to embarrass that person or people involved.

And the quote you referenced about my hustle can be verified. I actually worked my first game back from a hamstring injury with a person that is on this board. And anyone here that has seen me work can verify how I work and I even publicized a game this past February that was on TV. BTW, there was a person on this board that stopped by the game and watched me as well.

Let it go. It is time to worry about what you do and then you will be happy. Obviously you are still worried about what I think about you. You really do not want my opinion on this now.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The point is you are criticizing this guy for criticizing other officials, when you were guilty of exactly the same thing. Then, as is so often the case, when called on it, you disappear from the thread.

Gee, JAR, didya forget about this thread when you made the "criticizing other officials" remark above?

Vote of Confidence?

The point is you are criticizing this guy for criticizing other officials. when you were guilty of exactly the same thing.

Comment? Or y'all just gonna disappear from this thread?


This forum is better than Oprah some days.

[DLH17]

Thanks for hijacking my thread, just another ref!

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Gee, JAR, didya forget about this thread when you made the "criticizing other officials" remark above?

Vote of Confidence?

The point is you are criticizing this guy for criticizing other officials. when you were guilty of exactly the same thing.

Comment? Or y'all just gonna disappear from this thread?


This forum is better than Oprah some days.

You're leaving out a step. I say it's OK to criticize other officials. It's criticizing the criticism which is, in this case, creating the conflict.

In the old thread in question, the whole deal was about giving my partner info and allowing him to correct an erroneous GT call. In passing, I mentioned that both of us were somewhat behind where we might like to have been on the play because 17 year olds run faster than we do. (couldn't keep up with 'em then, can't now) Rut popped off about how he could keep up and what great shape he was/is in. (which actually had nothing to do with the thread and the matter at hand) I offered him the opportunity to describe where he would have positioned himself before, during, and after the play, but he was never heard from again. Go figure.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You're leaving out a step. I say it's OK to criticize other officials. It's criticizing the criticism which is, in this case, creating the conflict.

In the old thread in question, the whole deal was about giving my partner info and allowing him to correct an erroneous GT call. In passing, I mentioned that both of us were somewhat behind where we might like to have been on the play because 17 year olds run faster than we do. (couldn't keep up with 'em then, can't now) Rut popped off about how he could keep up and what great shape he was/is in. (which actually had nothing to do with the thread and the matter at hand) I offered him the opportunity to describe where he would have positioned himself before, during, and after the play, but he was never heard from again. Go figure.

I decided not to respond because it is pointless talking to you. Why say something to someone that knows what I already think or what I already feel.

Having a discussion with you is like having a discussion with some girl I once dated about some issue we argued about 10 years ago. Not only is it not fun, but it is totally unnecessary.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Having a discussion with you is like having a discussion with some girl I once dated about some issue we argued about 10 years ago. Not only is it not fun, but it is totally unnecessary.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Gee, JAR, didya forget about this thread when you made the "criticizing other officials" remark above?

Vote of Confidence?

The point is you are criticizing this guy for criticizing other officials. when you were guilty of exactly the same thing.

Comment? Or y'all just gonna disappear from this thread?


This forum is better than Oprah some days.

And the funny part he went to people in the game and sold out his partner. Wow!!! That is something I would never do or even share. I do not go around telling partners or coaches how bad I feel my partner is. I only talk about partners to very close people or if asked by assignors that assigned the game what I might think. I do not even like selling out someone in a camp setting if I am the only one there doing the evaluations and the people they are trying to work for are not there.

There is a big difference between talking about something here and referencing things people tell you, then going to my real life officiating and selling out partners or acting like an azz because an official does not work like I do. Good Lord and JAR is on me about what I said about him? Really, that is funny. No wonder I ignore his threads normally.

Peace

[DLH17]

This thread has become more than I ever dreamed it would be.

A big THANK YOU to all participants, hijackers and otherwise.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by DLH17

This thread has become more than I ever dreamed it would be.

You dreamed about this thread?

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by grunewar

You dreamed about this thread?

some of us dream of performing in that big game....i dream of starting ginormous officiating.com basketball threads

/blue font

[Judtech]

As someone who has been properly chasitsed for critical comments on officials, let me add my .02.
You think you have it rough watching what you say about local officials. Try being as close as I am with a person who has coached in the area for 25 years!! While she is not above having game film set up for me to watch she doesn't do it as often becuase she says "You ALWAYS side with the officials when I show you something" I usually just give her advice on a way to handle or approach officials the next time, i.e.: use words like displace, hot stove etc, avoid saying "3 seconds" ; get them off etc. ( Of course, this also lands me on the sofa from time to time, but at least our big screen and XBOX are out here so that helps!!!)
I usually hear from all the officials that work her games and we get good laughs out of it sometimes. I usually tell them they need to "T" her more b/c I am tired of hearing "I only have 4 technical fouls in 25 years of coaching". I think we need to get that number up around an even dozen!!!

How's THAT for thread hijacking?

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by Judtech

As someone who has been properly chasitsed for critical comments on officials, let me add my .02.
You think you have it rough watching what you say about local officials. Try being as close as I am with a person who has coached in the area for 25 years!! While she is not above having game film set up for me to watch she doesn't do it as often becuase she says "You ALWAYS side with the officials when I show you something" I usually just give her advice on a way to handle or approach officials the next time, i.e.: use words like displace, hot stove etc, avoid saying "3 seconds" ; get them off etc. ( Of course, this also lands me on the sofa from time to time, but at least our big screen and XBOX are out here so that helps!!!)
I usually hear from all the officials that work her games and we get good laughs out of it sometimes. I usually tell them they need to "T" her more b/c I am tired of hearing "I only have 4 technical fouls in 25 years of coaching". I think we need to get that number up around an even dozen!!!

How's THAT for thread hijacking?

I love it! Good stuff.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And the funny part he went to people in the game and sold out his partner. Wow!!! That is something I would never do or even share. I do not go around telling partners or coaches how bad I feel my partner is.

Didn't "go to" anybody. Didn't sell out anybody. (others disagree) Definitely didn't say anybody was bad.

When I make a mistake, I don't care who tells it or who knows about it. Post it here. Print it in the paper. Announce it on the PA during the game. I can handle it.

Rut said that when DLH criticized other officials, it meant he thought he was perfect. Rut's interpretations of things are often, uh, interesting.

But, when I was discussing a call, getting the call right, etc. Rut chimed in with his assessment that we were out of position, and that he could keep up with 17 years olds because he hustles and is in great shape. This sounds close to a declaration of perfection to me.

Seemed like an eerie coincidence.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Seemed like an eerie coincidence.

I would much rather be accused of what you are saying about me, then be a partner that sells out my partners like you did in the post that JR pointed out. You will never find someone that thinks I did that to them and I have been the "veteran" on many crews. Maybe that is where you are in your career and the people you work for cannot trust you to be in that situation very often. I am assigned many times to be that official and you do not see me coming here talking about how bad my partners are and how good I am, as you did in the “Vote of Confidence” thread.

Peace