Perkins Ejection

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by tref

I hear what BNR is saying, but this is NOT a HS game! These are grown men...

I work with grown men, tref, and grown women.

Would you like to know the result if one grown adult cursed out his/her grown boss?

You can't use emotions to justify actions. If these are pros, they should act like pros.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Would you like to know the result if one grown adult cursed out his/her grown boss?

Not a good comparison. Players/Officials Neither is the others boss.

[tref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I work with grown men, tref, and grown women.

Would you like to know the result if one grown adult cursed out his/her grown boss?

You can't use emotions to justify actions. If these are pros, they should act like pros.

This IS professional basketball NOT professional bowling.

Lets get away from employee/employer relationships.

How about an adult gets pulled over by a cop (since we are more in that capacity). I'm sure "this is a BS ticket" will be handled in different manners based on the cop. Although some may arrest you for that, I'm sure the majority would just eat it.

[Welpe]

Let's see...suspended for his 7th technical in the playoffs. Maybe he shouldn't have earned his other six technicals as well. Unless they were "cheap" also...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Let's see...suspended for his 7th technical in the playoffs. Maybe he shouldn't have earned his other six technicals as well. Unless they were "cheap" also...

5 out of the 6 were part of dual technicals, which have nothing to do with yapping at officials, etc. Some of 'em were things like double elbows, etc.

And the NBA rescinded the second technical foul today, so Perkins avoided the suspension.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

5 out of the 6 were part of dual technicals, which have nothing to do with yapping at officials, etc. Some of 'em were things like double elbows, etc.

Got it. Doesn't really change things IMO.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by tref

How about an adult gets pulled over by a cop (since we are more in that capacity). I'm sure "this is a BS ticket" will be handled in different manners based on the cop. Although some may arrest you for that, I'm sure the majority would just eat it.

A fairer comparison, for sure. Although, off hand, I don't know the laws for cursing out a police officer. I'm sure they vary from place to place. In sports, they're considerably more clear.

IMO, it still comes down to choice of behavior. No matter where you are, if you control your emotions, you're far better off than vice versa. If sports indeed builds character (and reveals it, too), such building won't take place if we don't call each other on it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bainsey

A fairer comparison, for sure. Although, off hand, I don't know the laws for cursing out a police officer. I'm sure they vary from place to place. In sports, they're considerably more clear.

It is? If that is the case we would not have some people calling this marginal and others calling it a no-brainer. Also I have never been told in a rulebook what is actually profanity and what is not. I would think a police officer has similar judgment to decide when certain laws are violated like disorderly conduct or even a speeding ticket. I know everyone does not get a speeding ticket for going one mile per hour over the speed limit, but if we are we are still guilty.

Peace

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Also I have never been told in a rulebook what is actually profanity and what is not.

I had a buddy tell me once that profanity was anything you wouldn't say in front of your grandmother. He didn't know my grandmother.

[VaTerp]

I agree with Hugh Hollins. I think Rush didnt realize, at the moment, that it was Perkins 2nd.

The second T should, and I believe will, be rescinded. And I don't believe this NBA policy shows up its officials at all. Perkins still got tossed and didnt play most of a critical playoff game. To suspend him for another playoff game would be too severe IMO.

It's good that the have the rule on the accumulation of techs and also, in this instance, the rule that allows the office to rescind one, b/c Perkin's actions don't warrant sitting out an additional game. Again, IMO.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

And I don't believe this NBA policy shows up its officials at all.

From the guy who wrote a scathing post about us not supporting our fellow officials at that level and making fun of the league for its practices, I find this to be truly ironic.

Nothing could be more undermining than for the league to come out and rescind the technical foul and lift the suspension. The league is telling the entire viewing world that the official was wrong and they aren't backing him.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I had a buddy tell me once that profanity was anything you wouldn't say in front of your grandmother. He didn't know my grandmother.

OMG, we must be related. Although she doesn't hold a candle to my mother in law!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

How about an adult gets pulled over by a cop (since we are more in that capacity). I'm sure "this is a BS ticket" will be handled in different manners based on the cop. Although some may arrest you for that, I'm sure the majority would just eat it.

I'm not aware of any laws that would allow for such an arrest. My guess would be any law that could be used for that would amount to such a stretch as to render the arresting officer a laughing stock among his colleagues.

'that's a bs call' gets a T from me every time, but I don't work NBA ball. It apparently is enough for a T from Eddie Rush.

And it's not as if this guy was looking at a suspension due to one T, he'd received 6 others in the post season; a total of what, 15 games so far? That's a pretty good clip.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm not aware of any laws that would allow for such an arrest. My guess would be any law that could be used for that would amount to such a stretch as to render the arresting officer a laughing stock among his colleagues.

Disorderly conduct would be the charge though IIRC, it has to be because it would be a disturbance to others and not the officer himself.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Disorderly conduct would be the charge though IIRC, it has to be because it would be a disturbance to others and not the officer himself.

Right, which wouldn't apply to the situation presented, where I tell the cop it's a BS ticket. Now, OTOH, such a statement would be highly likely to give the cop reason to hit me with every single violation he could find.