Intentional or excessive intentional

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I did blow my whistle and put a fist up as well, but dropped when I saw that my partner had a call. I felt that the foul was clearly an intentional, but that it was my partner's decision to make as it right in front of him.

Our third, who was very unhappy with the decision, came all the way down the court from T to talk with the calling official. He informed him that he could elevate that to an intentional. The L responded that the defender made a play for the ball (by rule not something which prevents the defender from being charged with an X) and therefore he didn't wish to go intentional. I stayed out of that conversation. I caught serious flak for my inaction.

Not that you asked, but since you DID put it out there...
The first paragraph is a nice example of the two schools of thought. Do you go with what you feel is clearly an intentional? Or do you let your partner live and die with the call? This is, with all due respect to Jurassic (and yes I do have respect for him) where calling into questions someones 'nadatudinal constitution' is not the best way to evaluate what transpires. For an argument can be made that for NEVADA to have 'shown his' he should have come right in with an X b/c he clearly felt the foul was intentional. Conversely, you can say that he IS 'showing his" by letting his crew live or die with the call from the L, regardless of what his feelings are about the play.
I don't have problem with the way NEVADA handled the situation. I probably would have handled it differently, but so what. Does that make me right and him wrong or vice versa? Nope. And I certainly would respect his decision and explaination and let it go at that. (OK, MAYBE a quick barb here and there, but I would expect the same in return!) Based on the play description, the person I would want some more info from would be the "T". What if any additional information did they provide the calling official with other than "You can upgrade that"? If that is all they did then I have a question as to why even bother? THAT would be what makes a crew look bad and causes problems.

Evaluator "So what did you say at your little confab after that hard foul?"
T: " I was letting him know that he could upgrade the foul if he wanted to." Evaluator "Did you give him any reason that he might want to do that?"
T: "No, just wanted to let him know".
Evaluator (thinking to self) - He must be the guy who keeps asking if I want to "Super Size" my order for only .89 more! As if I didn't already know that!!)

At least NEVADA was operating according to his principles.