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Old Fri May 21, 2010, 08:28pm
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May have had a travel call, but definitely no whistle for anything else that happened on that play.
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Old Sat May 22, 2010, 11:33am
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I am getting in on the fun late, but here is my take.

1) Travel by W44: A previous poster said that it was too close call a travel and he is on the correct school of thought in not calling a travel. In fact, I do not even think it is close to traveling.

2) Charge by W44: My labeling of this section should give everybody an idea of my feelings about this play. (a) The Black defender (I will call him B1 because I cannot read his number) had obtained/NFHS a LGP. (b) Yes, the camera is not the best, but my concern is that the T started to close down when W44 started his drive and then stopped when he could have and should have closed down two more steps, that would have given him a good angle to see if W44 made illegal contact with B1 or if B1 flopped. (c) Based upon my vast experience and number of years of experience: I have a CHARGE! on W44.

3) The rebounding play I do not care about because I have always stopped play because of the charging fould by W44, .

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P.S.: That means there is a missing choice on Snaqs poll, .
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Old Sat May 22, 2010, 11:44am
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Charge by W44: The Black defender had obtained a LGP.
I can't question your assertion that the Black defender had legal guarding position, it's just that I'm not 100% sure why he fell down: charged into, tripped over his own feet as he was backpedaling, or flopped?

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I do not even think it is close to traveling.
Check out the two steps after the jump stop. It's a tough call, whether in a real time situation, or even on the video, it can certainly be called either way, but, at the least, it's "close" to a travel.
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Old Sat May 22, 2010, 12:30pm
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I can't question your assertion that the Black defender had legal guarding position, it's just that I'm not 100% sure why he fell down: charged into, tripped over his own feet as he was backpedaling, or flopped?



Check out the two steps after the jump stop. It's a tough call, whether in a real time situation, or even on the video, it can certainly be called either way, but, at the least, it's "close" to a travel.


Billy:

I watched the tape at least five time with regards to the possiblity of traveling and I think that from what I could see on the tape I think that before I would call traveling I would have to have been the T and seen it it in real time and not on a TV screen.

I agree with you that the video is not a very good way to determine whether B1 flopped or not, but you know my philosophy of when in doubt, CHARGE IT! because it is the American Way for everybody to be in debt, oh wait, that is my political stump speech, .

My concern about the charge call is that the T started to close down when W44 started to drive and then stopped instead of staying with the play. Had the T continued to close down one or two more steps, he would have continued to have a very good angle to see if there was illegal contact by W44 of if B1 flopped.

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Old Mon May 24, 2010, 11:35am
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I think the travel is close, so I give the benefit of the doubt to the crew.

If you watch the offensive player on the collision, he did not go through the defender (in fact he is able to stop on a dime and gather for a shot attempt). So the play was a Correct No-Call by the crew.
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