Butler vs Duke - CREW

[mj]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

I don't think Valentine was the R. Although he tossed, Cahill administered the throw in to start the 2nd half. BTW, I thought the crew did an excellent job.

Cahill did administer the 2nd half throw in. I'll admit many years ago I thought Valentine was a show-boat but his style grows on you and he can flat out ref a game. Now I enjoy watching him.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mj

I'll admit many years ago I thought Valentine was a show-boat but his style grows on you and he can flat out ref a game. Now I enjoy watching him.

Agree. He has some mannerisms that I'm not that fond of either, one being too many extraneous and needless signals. I've seen him giving the big hand-on-hand good block signal. While doing so, he's fllat-footed, the play's going the other way and he's now put himself a few steps out of getting into the best position he could be in if something happens in his zone. He sureasheck isn't the only one though.

The bottom line is still that it really doesn't matter how you get there; it matters that you do get there. And Valentine usually ends up doing what he's been hired to do. And he did so last night also, imo.

[dahoopref]

I've got mixed feelings about the game because I really respect the crew that was out there. I thought the game was too physical and not a lot of John Adams' POE's were called. There were a few block/charge plays with players on the floor with no whistle by the crew. High hedge screens from the backside off-ball with illegal contact were not called. Drives to the hole with a foul were called "no shot", not allowing continuous movement to develop. These are things that observers point out on games that I work so I tend to watch for these things on TV.

There were great calls by the crew as well and I thought they did a good job dealing with the coaches. Of course in the end I realize it's easy to say things watching it on TV than being on the floor itself.

[DLH17]

I saw a lot of "incidental" contact out there last night. Crew did a great job recognizing and passing on calls.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

I've got mixed feelings about the game because I really respect the crew that was out there. I thought the game was too physical and not a lot of John Adams' POE's were called. There were a few block/charge plays with players on the floor with no whistle by the crew. High hedge screens from the backside off-ball with illegal contact were not called. Drives to the hole with a foul were called "no shot", not allowing continuous movement to develop. These are things that observers point out on games that I work so I tend to watch for these things on TV.

There were great calls by the crew as well and I thought they did a good job dealing with the coaches. Of course in the end I realize it's easy to say things watching it on TV than being on the floor itself.

I agree on the screens...there were some horrible screens being set by both teams. Especially the Duke big guys going out high and turning to pick the defender off with their butts as the defender was going past them. But they were consistent at both ends of the court...

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Especially the Duke big guys going out high and turning to pick the defender off with their butts as the defender was going past them.

This move ought to be called a zoubek.

[tomegun]

I thought the crew did a good job and Teddy was Teddy.