NCAA Rules that NFHS or State Associations should try out?

[chseagle]

Concerning the idea of stopping the clock under a minute of play after a made basket, how many table crews really put all their attention into the game?

Also there is a bit of lag time between hearing a whistle/seeing the signal & the clock operator stopping the clock.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Concerning the idea of stopping the clock under a minute of play after a made basket, how many table crews really put all their attention into the game?

Just you, Champ.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Just you, Champ.

What I am meaning is that the home book & the clock operator are buddies & chatting about everything during the game, plus the game. As well having more than 4 people at the scorers' table can be distracting (3 people for those that don't have shot clock).

I admit there are times I do get sidetracked , but that's also because I periodically pay attention to my surroundings, especially if something is happening that shouldn't be.

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by chseagle

What I am meaning is that the home book & the clock operator are buddies & chatting about everything during the game, plus the game. As well having more than 4 people at the scorers' table can be distracting (3 people for those that don't have shot clock).

I admit there are times I do get sidetracked , but that's also because I periodically pay attention to my surroundings, especially if something is happening that shouldn't be.

Are you proposing having one person to do all 4 tasks, so that there is less distraction?

Or maybe we should separate the people at the table and have the shot clock operator sit in one corner and the home team's scorer in another so that they aren't tempted to be social?

Or maybe we can have them all sit in their own plexiglass cubes so that they can see the action and hear whistles, but not talk to each other?


Seriously, is it really that hard to pay attention to a game for 32 minutes, that, at most schools, you are getting paid for?

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by sseltser

Seriously, is it really that hard to pay attention to a game for 32 minutes, that, at most schools, you are getting paid for?

I had an away game last year where the host scorer spent more time yelling at the referee than she did doing her job. Considering the lead official is usually a no-nonsense type of guy, I'm very surprised he didn't address that.

Of course that doesn't top the game a few weeks previous where the home scorer was editorializing every call he disagreed with. But yet when the home team was pressing with a 23 point lead (league rule: no press after 20 pt lead), he was amazingly silent.

I realize it's easy to get caught int he game action when it's a sibling or child in the game, but if you can do an effecitve job at the table, it's time to find another seat for the game. {/soapbox}

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by sseltser

Are you proposing having one person to do all 4 tasks, so that there is less distraction?

Or maybe we should separate the people at the table and have the shot clock operator sit in one corner and the home team's scorer in another so that they aren't tempted to be social?

Or maybe we can have them all sit in their own plexiglass cubes so that they can see the action and hear whistles, but not talk to each other?


Seriously, is it really that hard to pay attention to a game for 32 minutes, that, at most schools, you are getting paid for?

What I'm meaning is that the personnel become such good friends/buddies that they want to chat to catch up on current affairs.

Last year I got into the habit of having the table setup as such: Center of table is the clock/scoreboard & the home/official book. The visitor's book next to the home/official book (even if that meant the visitor book being next to the home bench). The shot clock next to the clock/scoreboard.

During 4A Regionals, the books were next to their repective benches & there were a few times were discripencies happened, due to no communication between the books. (Table setup pre-set by tournament director).

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by chseagle

What I'm meaning is that the personnel become such good friends/buddies that they want to chat to catch up on current affairs.

Some table personnel can also walk and chew gum at the same time.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Some table personnel can also walk and chew gum at the same time.

I thought it was "walk, chew gum, & talk on their cell phone at the same time"?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

What I am meaning is that the home book & the clock operator are buddies & chatting about everything during the game, plus the game. As well having more than 4 people at the scorers' table can be distracting (3 people for those that don't have shot clock).

I admit there are times I do get sidetracked , but that's also because I periodically pay attention to my surroundings, especially if something is happening that shouldn't be.

In my experience, in three different metro areas in two different states, table crews at the high school level are just fine and can handle this easily. I would also say that if they can do a shot clock, they can handle stopping the clock in the last minute.
There might be some C level crews that struggle, but so what?

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

In my experience, in three different metro areas in two different states, table crews at the high school level are just fine and can handle this easily. I would also say that if they can do a shot clock, they can handle stopping the clock in the last minute.
There might be some C level crews that struggle, but so what?

LMAO, that's also because majority of the time those working Sub-Varsity games are either still learning what needs to be done or just don't really have a full understanding of the rules/regualtions that all Varsity-level crews should have.