Duke/Baylor

[Pantherdreams]

I think if your gonna call that and it was clear enough that i don't disagree, you also need to call any comment or swinging and pushing that occurs in that scrum. To pick out one poor overreaction over another, particularly at that point seems excessively punitive.

[mutantducky]

on the charging I said charging right away, replay showed it could have gone either way. I thought it was a double T before the commercial break which would have been fine. I'd rather have the refs not give a T to only one side there but no biggie and unlikely to be that controversial.
I give the Baylor coach credit for not getting after the refs. In the games I saw he hardly seems to disagree at all compared to the other coaches.
That Duke PG was awesome.
my ideal final even though I picked Duke to make it: WV vs Butler.

[grunewar]

y'all shoulda been in the chat room during the game......

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

on the charging I said charging right away, replay showed it could have gone either way. I thought it was a double T before the commercial break which would have been fine. I'd rather have the refs not give a T to only one side there but no biggie and unlikely to be that controversial. I give the Baylor coach credit for not getting after the refs. In the games I saw he hardly seems to disagree at all compared to the other coaches.
That Duke PG was awesome.
my ideal final even though I picked Duke to make it: WV vs Butler.

Why?

[Nevadaref]

I don't believe that a T was called prior to the crew consulting the monitor. Upon video review a T was charged to Acy for intentional contact with an opponent during a dead ball.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I don't believe that a T was called prior to the crew consulting the monitor. Upon video review a T was charged to Acy for intentional contact with an opponent during a dead ball.

There most definitely was. The official was screened from the camera on the replay, but you could see him distinctly pick up his whistle and make the signal for "T"

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I don't believe that a T was called prior to the crew consulting the monitor. Upon video review a T was charged to Acy for intentional contact with an opponent during a dead ball.

Originally Posted by bas2456

There most definitely was. The official was screened from the camera on the replay, but you could see him distinctly pick up his whistle and make the signal for "T"

Thornley observed the scrum and nailed Acy for a "third man in" bump on the Duke player.

I'd be inclined to agree with pantherdreams - for the two guys involved in the original scrum. The third guy in has no excuse.

[bas2456]

I saw the Zoubek play. How close was he to the restricted area? My memory is failing me.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bas2456

There most definitely was. The official was screened from the camera on the replay, but you could see him distinctly pick up his whistle and make the signal for "T"

Okay, I'll check the video and see if I can find that.

Edit...

Yep, Thornley does whistle and give the T signal, but he does it twice. There is a tap-tap, before he points to Acy, which looks like a double-T at first.

I will say that I don't like him making the call of a T here when his partner is the one who jumps between Acy and Smith and has the best vantage point on the situation. I believe that he should have left the decision on how to handle it to him.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Okay, I'll check the video and see if I can find that.

Edit...

Yep, Thornley does whistle and give the T signal, but he does it twice. There is a tap-tap, before he points to Acy, which looks like a double-T at first.

I will say that I don't like him making the call of a T here when his partner is the one who jumps between Acy and Smith and has the best vantage point on the situation. I believe that he should have left the decision on how to handle it to him.

This is one situation where it may have been useful for Thornley to keep his eyes forward instead of looking at the bench while granting the timeout.

[doubleringer]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

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I will say that I don't like him making the call of a T here when his partner is the one who jumps between Acy and Smith and has the best vantage point on the situation. I believe that he should have left the decision on how to handle it to him.

I thought that maybe his partner was a little too close to the action and didn't see everything develop. Sometimes in these types of situations, the official that isn't in the middle of things gets a better look at everything going on. I thought Thornley did the right thing in not getting into the middle of things and letting the other two officials break things up, watching the whole play, and then dealing with it. I think they got it right. Just my opinion of course.

The block/charge was a GREAT call, tough one at a tough time of the game. Thats why those guys are out there and I'm sitting at home watching.