More trouble for Herb Pope

[dahoopref]

Originally Posted by deecee

I would love to watch a game you officiate.

I don't think NV point is that he is better than the officials on the floor (of course I could be wrong). The point is that the two players were involved in an altercation just the play before resulting a player on the floor. Someone on the crew at the very least should have been watching them come up the floor; it is called game awareness.

Granted, the T was officiating the ball coming up the court. The C and L should've have had an immediate whistle when the Tx Tech player went down to addressed what happened, even if they didn't see the foul; it was the Red Raider's ball. The Tx Tech player was on the floor for about 5 seconds before a whistle was blown to address him.

As a result, the play may have cost the Seton Hall coach his job for other reasons besides wins and losses.

Seton Hall fires hoops coach Bobby Gonzalez - College Basketball - Rivals.com

[rockyroad]

There was no "altercation" on the previous trip down the floor...a body went down during rebounding action. That happens quite often. There was nothing there to make the officials go "Oh my God. What did we just miss"...the benefit of multiple replay camera angles has shown us what happened, but for the crew on the court, there was no huge "We have to watch this guy" moment. The SH player pulled a bullsh!t move and it was dealt with...

[CLH]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

There was no "altercation" on the previous trip down the floor...a body went down during rebounding action. That happens quite often. There was nothing there to make the officials go "Oh my God. What did we just miss"...the benefit of multiple replay camera angles has shown us what happened, but for the crew on the court, there was no huge "We have to watch this guy" moment. The SH player pulled a bullsh!t move and it was dealt with...

What more does it take for a crew to go "oh my God. What did we just miss?" The player didn't just fall, he flew across the court. Call me paranoid but thats an "oh my God" action for me. Ok, so they missed that one, fine, it happens. ...but, they most certainly should have had an eagle eye on those two players during the ensuing play. Its no secret I'm not a fan of mens officials, but I do feel this crew called a great game. However, they dropped the ball on this one and thankfully he monitor saved them

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

There was no "altercation" on the previous trip down the floor...a body went down during rebounding action. That happens quite often. There was nothing there to make the officials go "Oh my God. What did we just miss"...the benefit of multiple replay camera angles has shown us what happened, but for the crew on the court, there was no huge "We have to watch this guy" moment. The SH player pulled a bullsh!t move and it was dealt with...

Apparently from the latest news stories out, there sureasheck was an altercation on the rebounding play. According to reports, Pope gave the TT player a nut-shot on that play too. Not quite as obvious though. He went 2 for 2 on low blows.

He should be that accurate shooting free throws.

[Adam]

wow, this quote was quite enlightening from Bob Hurley,

"I had an unusual relationship with Coach Gonzalez," longtime St. Anthony coach Bob Hurley said Wednesday. "There never really was a comfort zone.

"I had a comfort zone with Seton Hall, sending many players there in the past, but not recently. Whoever gets the job will personality-wise be different than Coach Gonzalez. I would consider sending our players there."

[deecee]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

I don't think NV point is that he is better than the officials on the floor (of course I could be wrong). The point is that the two players were involved in an altercation just the play before resulting a player on the floor. Someone on the crew at the very least should have been watching them come up the floor; it is called game awareness.

Granted, the T was officiating the ball coming up the court. The C and L should've have had an immediate whistle when the Tx Tech player went down to addressed what happened, even if they didn't see the foul; it was the Red Raider's ball. The Tx Tech player was on the floor for about 5 seconds before a whistle was blown to address him.

As a result, the play may have cost the Seton Hall coach his job for other reasons besides wins and losses.

Seton Hall fires hoops coach Bobby Gonzalez - College Basketball - Rivals.com

I dont care what his point his - he is very quick to point out the mistakes of every type of call and I can be wrong but it comes off a bit desperate and insecure. Every angle offers a different story and in the game you only get one angle (whether you like it or not) and you don't have the liberty of replay over and over again. That's why I would love to watch one of his 0 mistake games, which I think is safe to assume he has because of his great knowledge of the rules and his ability to pick apart every other officials mistakes.

That's just my personal observations.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by dahoopref

The point is that the two players were involved in an altercation just the play before resulting a player on the floor. Someone on the crew at the very least should have been watching them come up the floor; it is called game awareness.

Originally Posted by CLH

Ok, so they missed that one, fine, it happens. ...but, they most certainly should have had an eagle eye on those two players during the ensuing play. Its no secret I'm not a fan of mens officials, but I do feel this crew called a great game. However, they dropped the ball on this one and thankfully the monitor saved them

I agree with the two comments above.

[SWMOzebra]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

He should be that accurate shooting free throws.

It's all about how much you practice, JR. SH must have had some sort of "nut-shot" drill worked into their routine!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

It's all about how much you practice, JR. SH must have had some sort of "nut-shot" drill worked into their routine!

I'd hate to be on their practice squad.