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Old Tue Mar 09, 2010, 07:32am
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So you do have rules backing to do something about players gesturing to the opposing fans. Imo it's best to warn the player first though, and also take it to his coach at the same time. A simple "Coach, he's gotta cut that crap out...or else" might be the best way to go.
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Exactly my thought: warn then whack.
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Old Tue Mar 09, 2010, 07:44am
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Exactly my thought: warn then whack.
Just one more thought here: I think a warning is warranted before assessing the T. Unfortunate though it might be, what counts as "sporting behavior" is not obvious to many, and certainly not consistently enforced across the country or even across a given conference.
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Old Tue Mar 09, 2010, 08:03am
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How would a rookie, or inexperienced official, who has diligently read the rule book, case book, and manual, know about a Point of Emphasis from 2003-04 or 2005-06? Same question about annual interpretations that never make it into the case book.

I know that camps, and clinics, would expose new or inexperienced, officials to such situations, but not all officials take officiating as seriously as others. Some are just content to have a good understanding of rules, and mechanics, and do a good job when they work their CYO and AAU games.
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Old Tue Mar 09, 2010, 08:18am
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How would a rookie, or inexperienced official, who has diligently read the rule book, case book, and manual, know about a Point of Emphasis from 2003-04 or 2005-06? Same question about annual interpretations that never make it into the case book.
Asking their local rules interpreter might not be a bad idea...for anything that they aren't sure of and can't find in the books. Most rules interpreters either know the answer or know how to get an answer.

Lacking a local rules interpreter, try your assignor/evaluator/state office. Or this and similar forums.
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Old Tue Mar 09, 2010, 08:20am
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How would a rookie, or inexperienced official, who has diligently read the rule book, case book, and manual, know about a Point of Emphasis from 2003-04 or 2005-06? Same question about annual interpretations that never make it into the case book.

I know that camps, and clinics, would expose new or inexperienced, officials to such situations, but not all officials take officiating as seriously as others. Some are just content to have a good understanding of rules, and mechanics, and do a good job when they work their CYO and AAU games.
Although the rule book specifies baiting and taunting an opponent, I don't think you need the POE from 03-04 to know that taunting the fans is bad behavior and can easily be corrected by talking to the coach.
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Old Tue Mar 09, 2010, 08:21am
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How would a rookie, or inexperienced official, who has diligently read the rule book, case book, and manual, know about a Point of Emphasis from 2003-04 or 2005-06? Same question about annual interpretations that never make it into the case book.

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Old Tue Mar 09, 2010, 11:42am
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How would a rookie, or inexperienced official, who has diligently read the rule book, case book, and manual, know about a Point of Emphasis from 2003-04 or 2005-06? Same question about annual interpretations that never make it into the case book.

I know that camps, and clinics, would expose new or inexperienced, officials to such situations, but not all officials take officiating as seriously as others. Some are just content to have a good understanding of rules, and mechanics, and do a good job when they work their CYO and AAU games.

This is the MAIN reason I read this forum on a daily basis. I learn so much about how to handle things before they come up and feel much more prepared than I would if I were only reading the rule book, manual, and case book. I've often said that I learned the most in college when I was in grad school because WE were discussing the issues rather than listening to a prof speak from the top down. This is a valuable resource for rooks like me.
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