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Originally Posted by JRutledge

It would depend on why a kid booted the ball into the stands. It would depend who they are mad at. It would depend on where the ball went. A lot of things depends and that is the way I am going to call it. Now I love the hypothetical, because I have never seen a kid boot the ball into the stands. I have seen kids bounce the ball several times and it was not always about us or even a call. It was about a certain level of frustration at themselves and we moved on. Sorry, everything is not black and white and no for me this is not automatic. You can call what you feel, but I am not going to call that for the reason you stated.

Peace

There is no hypothetical here.

A kid on on the receiving end of a beautiful pass from a teammate. He fumbles it out of bounds. He retrieves it and out of frustration because he knows he made a mistake, he intentionally boots the ball into the empty stands behind the basket.

whack......each and every time.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by asdf

There is no hypothetical here.

A kid on on the receiving end of a beautiful pass from a teammate. He fumbles it out of bounds. He retrieves it and out of frustration because he knows he made a mistake, he intentionally boots the ball into the empty stands behind the basket.

whack......each and every time.

Well if it happens you let us all know, because I have never seen that ever happen. Never heard it happen. Not even close.

Peace

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well if it happens you let us all know, because I have never seen that ever happen. Never heard it happen. Not even close.

Peace

I have never seen it either, but I guarantee you, it's going to be penalized if I do. I won't need to determine if the kid was upset about a bad Math quiz, a bad apple he had for lunch, or a bad pass from his teammate.


My first example in this thread of a player slamming the ball to the ground and having it launch 15 feet into the air after he failed to catch it has happened to me twice in my career. Both times the player was upset at himself.

We shot 2 both times.

P.S. -- Both players and I still chuckle about it to this day.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by asdf

I have never seen it either, but I guarantee you, it's going to be penalized if I do. I won't need to determine if the kid was upset about a bad Math quiz, a bad apple he had for lunch, or a bad pass from his teammate.

OK, but this is your standard, not everyone else's standard. What you do in your game is your business.

Originally Posted by asdf

My first example in this thread of a player slamming the ball to the ground and having it launch 15 feet into the air after he failed to catch it has happened to me twice in my career. Both times the player was upset at himself.

We shot 2 both times.

P.S. -- Both players and I still chuckle about it to this day.

Well in the NCAA Championship a kid did the same thing and there was no penalty. And the NCAA basically said they were fine with the way the officials handled the situation. It is obvious that not everyone necessarily agrees with you.

Peace

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

OK, but this is your standard, not everyone else's standard. What you do in your game is your business.



Well in the NCAA Championship a kid did the same thing and there was no penalty. And the NCAA basically said they were fine with the way the officials handled the situation. It is obvious that not everyone necessarily agrees with you.

Peace

1) I do not form an opinion based on whether or not everybody agress with me.

2) The NCAA Championship has nothing to do with this. If we patterned ourselves after those guys, we'd allow drop step with the left foot, followed by the pivot foot being lifted and re-set before the ball is passed or shot.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by asdf

1) I do not form an opinion based on whether or not everybody agress with me.

I did not ask you to. I just pointed out that there are those that are not giving a T for the action "automatically."

Originally Posted by asdf

2) The NCAA Championship has nothing to do with this. If we patterned ourselves after those guys, we'd allow drop step with the left foot, followed by the pivot foot being lifted and re-set before the ball is passed or shot.

It does in this way; it is an example of officials not giving a T where there are not many public situations as examples.

And if high school officials were the pattern, then we everyone should call travels for the ball not being in possession of a ball handler and we would have high dribbles as palming violations. Careful what you wish for.

Peace

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

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And if high school officials were the pattern, then we everyone should call travels for the ball not being in possession of a ball handler and we would have high dribbles as palming violations. Peace

Huh ???