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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 12:12am
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A up by two points, five seconds left, A1 shooting two foul shots. A1 misses first shot, and yells sh-- for the entire gym to hear because he is mad at himself.

No choice but to T, he misses the second shot, the other team hits both technical free throws. Team A goes on to lose in overtime.

Oh, did I mention- A1 has only one arm and has played an absolutely amazing game up until then.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 09:18am
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Actually, There Is A Choice Here ???
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A up by two points, five seconds left, A1 shooting two foul shots. A1 misses first shot, and yells sh-- for the entire gym to hear because he is mad at himself. No choice but to T.
Let the games begin.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 01:04pm
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A up by two points, five seconds left, A1 shooting two foul shots. A1 misses first shot, and yells sh-- for the entire gym to hear because he is mad at himself.

No choice but to T, he misses the second shot, the other team hits both technical free throws. Team A goes on to lose in overtime.

Oh, did I mention- A1 has only one arm and has played an absolutely amazing game up until then.
huh?!?!
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 01:18pm
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Let the games begin.
This is a tough one. in most cases i do not think that THIS specific word is all that bad. either way I would probably ask my assignor or local association how they would want THIS one handled. I personally would not call this (depends on the level of course - sportsmanship is a sliding scale to some degree and varies by age and level) and it is NOT automatic.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 02:19pm
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It is NOT automatic.
Agree. But I also believe that it is NOT not automatic in some situations (crowd noise, level of game, previous language problems, volume, etc.).
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 02:22pm
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They would want THIS one handled.
I think that you misread the original post. They would want this one handed.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 02:23pm
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If he yells that word "loud enough for the whole gym to hear," you T him up just for ignorance.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 02:46pm
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This is a tough one. in most cases i do not think that THIS specific word is all that bad. either way I would probably ask my assignor or local association how they would want THIS one handled. I personally would not call this (depends on the level of course - sportsmanship is a sliding scale to some degree and varies by age and level) and it is NOT automatic.

When the whole gym hears it it is an automatic WHACK at all levels (youth, jr. H.S., H.S., and college).

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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 03:06pm
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I think that you misread the original post. They would want this one handed.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 03:07pm
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When the whole gym hears it it is an automatic WHACK at all levels (youth, jr. H.S., H.S., and college).

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Mark, is this your personal feeling on the subject or is this the general consensus?
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 04:22pm
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Mark, is this your personal feeling on the subject or is this the general consensus?

I would be greatly disappointed in any official who would have a problem in charging a player with a TF in this circumstance. This is even a TF in Special Olympics.

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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 04:34pm
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OK, I see everyone's point about this word not being automatic, and I agree.

However, this is a church sponsored rec league- I really had no choice. The league specifically prohibits profanity in the league charter.

However, I think I would have called this in a HS game as well, based on volume and timing. It was just too loud and at that point in time every eye in the gym was on him.
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However, this is a church sponsored league.
Now, with more information in hand, it's an automatic automatic.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 05:00pm
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in this situation automatic whack seems imminent.

Was wondering about if a kid were to go down with an injury (sprained ankle, broken finger) and cursed loudly in pain. Would the association/league expect you to T up that kid. That seems rough.
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Old Sun Mar 07, 2010, 05:40pm
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Was wondering about if a kid were to go down with an injury (sprained ankle, broken finger) and cursed loudly in pain. Would the association/league expect you to T up that kid. That seems rough.
Actually happened in the same game. My partner is standing next to the downed player (sprained ankle) while I get the coach. Afterwards my partner tells me there may have been an F word heard only by him and a teammate of the downed player.

We didn't hear anything at all. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.
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