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[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

My question is this: what was called on the initial foul?

I believe the initial call was on the player who was punched. If you look, you'll see she grabbed and threw the Baylor player's arm.

[Mark Padgett]

I went to a girls basketball game and a hockey game broke out.

[Juulie Downs]

I saw the clip, didn't see a foul called on the initial play, but it's hard to know. It looks as though their arms just got tangled, but then white got impatient and shoved black. It was silly of black to retaliate, since she was in no way inconvenienced by the play. I mean, the ball didn't come in, and she got right back into position. Just goes to show that women can be equal to men in hot-headedness.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

Just goes to show that women can be equal to men in hot-headedness.

Equal? Right.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I believe the initial call was on the player who was punched. If you look, you'll see she grabbed and threw the Baylor player's arm.

Yeah, what I meant was, I wonder what that call was. Did they go common foul? At minimum, it looked intentional.

[JRutledge]

There was a foul given before the punch. I cannot say what was actually called as the clip did not continue to show what happened otherwise.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, what I meant was, I wonder what that call was. Did they go common foul? At minimum, it looked intentional.

I've been trying to find a play-by-play of the game, but there doesn't seem to be one available online. If I had to guess, I'd say they initially went with a common foul as both the C and L didn't go up with the X. After the punch and benches clearing, I wouldn't be surprised if they upgraded it to an intentional.

[NathanRT]

It's official, she'll sit out a total of two games, the last regular season game and the first round of the Big 12 tournament.

Baylor's Griner suspended two games | College Sports Blog | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | The Dallas Morning News

[GoodwillRef]

2 games suspension...what a joke! How many games would Baylor tack on if this was the 6th game of the year and not this close to the Big 12 and NCAA Tournaments? I am guessing she might have gotten 5-10 if it were earlier in the season.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

I have a lot of respect for what Kim Mulkey has done in the game of Women's basketball! This decision to suspend Griner one additional game on top of the NCAA's mandated suspension will cost her some of that respect.Mulkey needed to send a message, SHE DIDN'T!, So the BIG 12 should have! If she's my player its not only the NCAA minimum suspension but all remaining games and functions.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I believe the initial call was on the player who was punched. If you look, you'll see she grabbed and threw the Baylor player's arm.

Yabut......did Griner reach in and clamp the offensive player's arm before she got thrown away? Should that have been the initial foul...holding on Griner?

And further to that, did anything before this incident happen that might have gotten Griner ready to go off? Was she being roughed up? Were both players going at each other before? Sometimes you need the whole backstory to come to a decision re: properly assigning right vs. wrong.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yabut......did Griner reach in and clamp the offensive player's arm before she got thrown away? Should that have been the initial foul...holding on Griner?

And further to that, did anything before this incident happen that might have gotten Griner ready to go off? Was she being roughed up? Were both players going at each other before? Sometimes you need the whole backstory to come to a decision re: properly assigning right vs. wrong.

She punched the player in the face and broke her nose...that is the WRONG here. Maybe the NCAA needs to rethink the automatic 1 game suspension and make it an automatic 5 games and then a player might think twice about being stupid.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

She punched the player in the face and broke her nose...that is the WRONG here. Maybe the NCAA needs to rethink the automatic 1 game suspension and make it an automatic 5 games and then a player might think twice about being stupid.

And good on Baylor for adding a game to the suspension.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And further to that, did anything before this incident happen that might have gotten Griner ready to go off? Was she being roughed up? Were both players going at each other before? Sometimes you need the whole backstory to come to a decision re: properly assigning right vs. wrong.

One of my trainer/evaluators once said - if a situation like this develops, you've got to ask yourself - "What did you miss that may have caused this or helped it happen?"

True 100% of the time? Maybe not.

Just sayin.........

[NewNCref]

Originally Posted by grunewar

One of my trainer/evaluators once said - if a situation like this develops, you've got to ask yourself - "What did you miss that may have caused this or helped it happen?"

True 100% of the time? Maybe not.

Just sayin.........

I think this is great advice as officials look at how they might help prevent such an action from occurring again.

However, I don't think it is at all applicable to how the NCAA should hand down discipline. Whether she felt like she was getting "roughed up" or not, her actions were unacceptable. I'm not saying that this is what you were implying with your post, but I'm just throwing in my $0.02.

For those who might be interested, the crew consisted of Lawson Newton, Sue Blauch, and Gina Cross.