New one for me...

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What is the difference between preventative officiating and coaching? How long should I, or could I, have waited?

Waiting in any case does not constitute coaching because you never addressed the players.

Wait until you're convinced that he's defying you.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Situation is from the 07-08 interps. This interpretation, in my opinion, is consistent with the wording of the rule, even though I don't care much for the rule. In the current case play 10.1.9, the team does gain an apparent advantage, but this condition is not specified anywhere else.

What, specifically, does your book say about this?

And why is there yet another NFHS rules publication in the first place?

I appreciate your thoughts on the need for yet another rule book. Rules by topic is just that. It makes it easier to find certain rules because they put them together by a topic. they also provide some case plays along with them. As noted before people don't put alot of stock in this publication for whatever reason. I have found a few errors myself. So I am just trying to get to the bottom of this. It reads just as you posted but they no longer get a T if it is truly a mistake and no advantage is gained. Not arguing just tring to get it right.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

... they no longer get a T if it is truly a mistake and no advantage is gained. Not arguing just tring to get it right.

Would you mind quoting the passage?

[AKOFL]

10.3.3 sit B After a lengthy substitution process involving multiple substitutions for both teams, A5 goes to the bench and remains there believing he/she has been replaced. The ball is put in play even though team A has only four players on the court. Team A is bringing the ball into A's front court when the coach of team A realizes they only have four players. the coach yells for A5 to return and he/she sprints directly onto the court and catches up whith the play. Ruling. No technical foul is charged to A5. A5's return to the court was not deceitful, nor did it provide A5 an unfair positioning advantage on the court.

[Adam]

That's a slightly different sitch. If this happens following a timeout, call the T.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That's a slightly different sitch. If this happens following a timeout, call the T.

that's the difference I was not getting. Thanks Snaq. Sorry JAR. Sometimes I can't read the details to save my own life.

[gslefeb]

10.1.9 Sit After time-out if A5 stays on the bench; then comes onto the court during action - T

10.3.2 Sit B - After subs - A5 thinks they were replaced goes to the bench and then comes onto the court during action - No T.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

10.3.3 sit B After a lengthy substitution process involving multiple substitutions for both teams, A5 goes to the bench and remains there believing he/she has been replaced. The ball is put in play even though team A has only four players on the court. Team A is bringing the ball into A's front court when the coach of team A realizes they only have four players. the coach yells for A5 to return and he/she sprints directly onto the court and catches up whith the play. Ruling. No technical foul is charged to A5. A5's return to the court was not deceitful, nor did it provide A5 an unfair positioning advantage on the court.

Something else is wrong. 10-3-3 deals with dunking and grasping.

You mean 10.3.2, right?

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Something else is wrong. 10-3-3 deals with dunking and grasping.

You mean 10.3.2, right?

Another peice of ammo for the assasination of the rules by topic book.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

Another peice of ammo for the assasination of the rules by topic book.

You mean this book has them numbered differently?

Is this the book for the current year?

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You mean this book has them numbered differently?

Is this the book for the current year?

This quote is from the 08-09. I just read it out of the 09-10 and it was the same. didn't notice the numbers though