Three point shot from knees

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

2. No, it's not a travel. Lifting one knee isn't a travel in this case. If it was the only knee down, then it would be. He doesn't stand, or attempt to stand.

I disagree. From two knees to one knee and one foot is a travel. It is part of an attempt to get up.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I disagree. From two knees to one knee and one foot is a travel. It is part of an attempt to get up.

The video shows otherwise, there is no way this player is attempting to get up, Camron.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The video shows otherwise, there is no way this player is attempting to get up, Camron.

This is how I see it as well.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The video shows otherwise, there is no way this player is attempting to get up, Camron.

I didn't look at the video, I'm talking in general. Any attempt to improve thier position/stance from the floor is getting up (perhaps just partially).

The only thing a player on the floor is permitted to do (after thier momentum of diving for the ball has stopped) is sit up if and only if they are on their back. Any other movement (more than a little wiggling/rocking) is traveling.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I didn't look at the video, I'm talking in general. Any attempt to improve thier position/stance from the floor is getting up (perhaps just partially).

The only thing a player on the floor is permitted to do is sit up if and only if they are on their back. Any other movement is traveling.

Unless of course......you......

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I didn't look at the video, I'm talking in general. Any attempt to improve thier position/stance from the floor is getting up (perhaps just partially).

The only thing a player on the floor is permitted to do is sit up if and only if they are on their back. Any other movement is traveling.

The rule doesn't say they can't "improve their position." It says they can't get up or attempt to get up. It says they can't roll over. I don't see how your position is supported by rule, Camron. Now I've got to go to my car to get the book.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The rule doesn't say they can't "improve their position." It says they can't get up or attempt to get up. It says they can't roll over. I don't see how your position is supported by rule, Camron. Now I've got to go to my car to get the book.

By explicitly saying the player may sit up on their back, that is implying that other movements are not permitted. Rising to one knee/one foot is getting up.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

By explicitly saying the player may sit up on their back, that is implying that other movements are not permitted. Rising to one knee/one foot is getting up.

You're basing this inference on a case play, not the rule. The rule just says he can't stand or attempt to get up. That's it. The player in the video doesn't stand, and he doesn't attempt to get up. His left knee comes off the floor as he gathers leverage for a long shot.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You're basing this inference on a case play, not the rule. The rule just says he can't stand or attempt to get up. That's it. The player in the video doesn't stand, and he doesn't attempt to get up. His left knee comes off the floor as he gathers leverage for a long shot.

Again, I wasn't commenting on the video....I've not seen it.

If a player, on both knees merely raises one as they are passing/shooting the ball...nothing....I agree.

But if they raise their knee then place that foot on the ground as in the first step of getting up, they have traveled.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

By explicitly saying the player may sit up on their back, that is implying that other movements are not permitted. Rising to one knee/one foot is getting up.

I disagree with your reading. The rule provides an example of a movement that's not to be interpreted as "attempting to get up."

That does not imply that it's the ONLY such movement.