Three point shot from knees

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

no travel....

AND no backcourt violation. why you ask?....well....was his foot on the mid-court line or over the mid-court line?.....I say over the line (which of course is not a violation)

GREAT SHOT! should make ESPN's PLAYS of the WEEK - it is still 1990, right?...

If I remember the original article right, the play did make the top play of the day on Sportscenter.

As I saw the play the ball itself did not go into the backcourt.

My primary question was the player moving off his left knee onto his left foot, about if that could be considered traveling or not.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

If I remember the original article right, the play did make the top play of the day on Sportscenter.

As I saw the play the ball itself did not go into the backcourt.

My primary question was the player moving off his left knee onto his left foot, about if that could be considered traveling or not.

1. The ball itself does not have to go into the backcourt. Had his foot touched the line or beyond prior to releasing the shot, it would have been a violation. As it is, it's difficult to tell.

2. No, it's not a travel. Lifting one knee isn't a travel in this case. If it was the only knee down, then it would be. He doesn't stand, or attempt to stand.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

2. No, it's not a travel. Lifting one knee isn't a travel in this case. If it was the only knee down, then it would be. He doesn't stand, or attempt to stand.

I disagree. From two knees to one knee and one foot is a travel. It is part of an attempt to get up.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I disagree. From two knees to one knee and one foot is a travel. It is part of an attempt to get up.

The video shows otherwise, there is no way this player is attempting to get up, Camron.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The video shows otherwise, there is no way this player is attempting to get up, Camron.

This is how I see it as well.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The video shows otherwise, there is no way this player is attempting to get up, Camron.

I didn't look at the video, I'm talking in general. Any attempt to improve thier position/stance from the floor is getting up (perhaps just partially).

The only thing a player on the floor is permitted to do (after thier momentum of diving for the ball has stopped) is sit up if and only if they are on their back. Any other movement (more than a little wiggling/rocking) is traveling.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I didn't look at the video, I'm talking in general. Any attempt to improve thier position/stance from the floor is getting up (perhaps just partially).

The only thing a player on the floor is permitted to do is sit up if and only if they are on their back. Any other movement is traveling.

Unless of course......you......

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I didn't look at the video, I'm talking in general. Any attempt to improve thier position/stance from the floor is getting up (perhaps just partially).

The only thing a player on the floor is permitted to do is sit up if and only if they are on their back. Any other movement is traveling.

The rule doesn't say they can't "improve their position." It says they can't get up or attempt to get up. It says they can't roll over. I don't see how your position is supported by rule, Camron. Now I've got to go to my car to get the book.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The rule doesn't say they can't "improve their position." It says they can't get up or attempt to get up. It says they can't roll over. I don't see how your position is supported by rule, Camron. Now I've got to go to my car to get the book.

By explicitly saying the player may sit up on their back, that is implying that other movements are not permitted. Rising to one knee/one foot is getting up.