Three point shot from knees

[chseagle]

Saw this amazing shot initially on Yahoo!

After watching this video, from how I see it, he travels a little before releasing the shot. What does everyone else see?

YouTube - MSU Canaan Sit down 3 pointer

[Mark Padgett]

I'm not positive, but it appears that just before he releases the shot, he's holding the ball with both hands and his foot crosses the division line. Should have been a backcourt violation.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I'm not positive, but it appears that just before he releases the shot, he's holding the ball with both hands and his foot crosses the division line. Should have been a backcourt violation.

Yes his left foot does go over the division line, also when he initially regains possession of the ball, both knees are on the court, however before releasing the ball he brings his left knee up where he's resting on his left foot.

Couldn't that be considered a travel?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by mark padgett

i'm not positive, but it appears that just before he releases the shot, he's holding the ball with both hands and his foot crosses the division line. Should have been a backcourt violation.

+1

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Yes his left foot does go over the division line, also when he initially regains possession of the ball, both knees are on the court, however before releasing the ball he brings his left knee up where he's resting on his left foot.

Couldn't that be considered a travel?

Unless he actually attempts to stand, it's nothing. (backcourt ruling not provided here)

[Adam]

On a serious note, I don't think his foot crosses the division line before he released it, but it's close. I love how the announcer is already embelishing:

"3 feet beyond the midcourt line!"

By next week, he'll have hit it from the opposite FT line.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I'm not positive, but it appears that just before he releases the shot, he's holding the ball with both hands and his foot crosses the division line. Should have been a backcourt violation.

I paused/played it a few times; I don't think he touches the line until after the ball is released. Also, I don't have a travel there. I didn't see an attempt to stand.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I'm not positive, but it appears that just before he releases the shot, he's holding the ball with both hands and his foot crosses the division line. Should have been a backcourt violation.

And I'm sure you would have TWEEEET, come right in, waived off the shot, and called the violation.....right?

That is right before you T'd and tossed the coach for objecting!

[jeffpea]

no travel....

AND no backcourt violation. why you ask?....well....was his foot on the mid-court line or over the mid-court line?.....I say over the line (which of course is not a violation)

GREAT SHOT! should make ESPN's PLAYS of the WEEK - it is still 1990, right?...

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

no travel....

AND no backcourt violation. why you ask?....well....was his foot on the mid-court line or over the mid-court line?.....I say over the line (which of course is not a violation)

GREAT SHOT! should make ESPN's PLAYS of the WEEK - it is still 1990, right?...

If I remember the original article right, the play did make the top play of the day on Sportscenter.

As I saw the play the ball itself did not go into the backcourt.

My primary question was the player moving off his left knee onto his left foot, about if that could be considered traveling or not.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

If I remember the original article right, the play did make the top play of the day on Sportscenter.

As I saw the play the ball itself did not go into the backcourt.

My primary question was the player moving off his left knee onto his left foot, about if that could be considered traveling or not.

1. The ball itself does not have to go into the backcourt. Had his foot touched the line or beyond prior to releasing the shot, it would have been a violation. As it is, it's difficult to tell.

2. No, it's not a travel. Lifting one knee isn't a travel in this case. If it was the only knee down, then it would be. He doesn't stand, or attempt to stand.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

2. No, it's not a travel. Lifting one knee isn't a travel in this case. If it was the only knee down, then it would be. He doesn't stand, or attempt to stand.

I disagree. From two knees to one knee and one foot is a travel. It is part of an attempt to get up.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I disagree. From two knees to one knee and one foot is a travel. It is part of an attempt to get up.

The video shows otherwise, there is no way this player is attempting to get up, Camron.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The video shows otherwise, there is no way this player is attempting to get up, Camron.

This is how I see it as well.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The video shows otherwise, there is no way this player is attempting to get up, Camron.

I didn't look at the video, I'm talking in general. Any attempt to improve thier position/stance from the floor is getting up (perhaps just partially).

The only thing a player on the floor is permitted to do (after thier momentum of diving for the ball has stopped) is sit up if and only if they are on their back. Any other movement (more than a little wiggling/rocking) is traveling.