Drunken Referree

[Adam]

Originally Posted by asdf

Look harder..... nowhere do I mention the word "think". I am not going to take a hard line unless I detect alcohol.

Trust me..... he/she isn't working with me that night. One way or the other, the game is going to be worked with one less person than originally scheduled.

Just how do you think you're going to detect it? Do you have a breathalyzer in your bag? The smell can be meaningless, frankly, as many things can mimic the odor of alcohol. Even on the road it only provides probable cause for the cops to search further.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Just how do you think you're going to detect it? Do you have a breathalyzer in your bag? The smell can be meaningless, frankly, as many things can mimic the odor of alcohol. Even on the road it only provides probable cause for the cops to search further.

How do I detect it?

1)The industry that I work in requires me to be trained in this type of detection.

2) I am also a parent of former and current teen-agers.


I have never met anyone who has mistaken the odor.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by asdf

I have never met anyone who has mistaken the odor.

Perhaps you just don't know the right diabetics.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Perhaps you just don't know the right diabetics.

I presume you're talking about a diabetic who has high blood sugar and sweet smelling breath?

I think it is hard NOT to smell booze on somebody that is noticeably inebriated but maybe this has to do with what my job was in college.

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I presume you're talking about a diabetic who has high blood sugar and sweet smelling breath?

I think it is hard NOT to smell booze on somebody that is noticeably inebriated but maybe this has to do with what my job was in college.

You can get an actual job picking up drunk chicks?!?!

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by slow whistle

You can get an actual job picking up drunk chicks?!?!

The dead weight is a back breaker!

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by asdf

How do I detect it?

1)The industry that I work in requires me to be trained in this type of detection.

2) I am also a parent of former and current teen-agers.


I have never met anyone who has mistaken the odor.

Ahhhh, as mentioned in a prior post I knew this was close to home with you.

So, what's your take on Altar wine as I asked you before?

We have plenty of holiday tournaments with games starting at 9:00 am, do you have a cut off for the night before?

The funny thing is we're very close to agreeing here. I don't think it's a good idea to have a drink when you have a game the same day. I for one get tired with any wine or beer during the day no matter how small the quantity and rarely do partake. I'm certainly not arriving at game site with any hint of it on me.

I'm disagreeing with your absolute. Your judge and jury conclusions on suspected drinking by your partners is troublesome, and it appears you're carrying your job over into the officiating arena.

Of course you're entitled to believe as you wish.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Ahhhh, as mentioned in a prior post I knew this was close to home with you.

So, what's your take on Altar wine as I asked you before?

We have plenty of holiday tournaments with games starting at 9:00 am, do you have a cut off for the night before?

The funny thing is we're very close to agreeing here. I don't think it's a good idea to have a drink when you have a game the same day. I for one get tired with any wine or beer during the day no matter how small the quantity and rarely do partake. I'm certainly not arriving at game site with any hint of it on me.

I'm disagreeing with your absolute. Your judge and jury conclusions on suspected drinking by your partners is troublesome, and it appears you're carrying your job over into the officiating arena.

Of course you're entitled to believe as you wish.

As far as being "close to home".... (you have no clue, assume as you wish) I was challenged as to how I could detect alcohol on someone's breeath.

As far as the Altar Wine.....(talk about apples and oranges, but I'll play anyway) I don't know where you go to mass, but I have yet to experience a Catholic Church dispensing wine via a 12oz glass for each person.... nice try...

9:00am start...... I would not have any reason to be drinking after midnight, but that's just me.

I'll leave you to your insults.......... have at it.......

[Adam]

Originally Posted by asdf

As far as being "close to home".... (you have no clue, assume as you wish) I was challenged as to how I could detect alcohol on someone's breeath.

Dude, he said it was close to home, then you said your job requires you "to be trained in this type of detection." He may have no clue, but it sure as smoke seems he's write.

Without a breathalyzer, I still say you have no way of determining for sure whether the effects are due to alcohol or other sources. Would those behavioral symptoms preclude someone from working a game? Probably, but they don't mean an official's career should be over as you suggest; nor do they mean he has no integrity.

And frankly, if you can have a drink at 11:30 the night before a 9:00 am game, why can't someone have a beer at lunch on the day of a 7:00 pm game?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Dude, he said it was close to home, then you said your job requires you "to be trained in this type of detection." He may have no clue, but it sure as smoke seems he's write.

Without a breathalyzer, I still say you have no way of determining for sure whether the effects are due to alcohol or other sources. Would those behavioral symptoms preclude someone from working a game? Probably, but they don't mean an official's career should be over as you suggest; nor do they mean he has no integrity.

And frankly, if you can have a drink at 11:30 the night before a 9:00 am game, why can't someone have a beer at lunch on the day of a 7:00 pm game?

Because ASDF says so

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by asdf

As far as being "close to home".... (you have no clue, assume as you wish) I was challenged as to how I could detect alcohol on someone's breeath.

As far as the Altar Wine.....(talk about apples and oranges, but I'll play anyway) I don't know where you go to mass, but I have yet to experience a Catholic Church dispensing wine via a 12oz glass for each person.... nice try...
9:00am start...... I would not have any reason to be drinking after midnight, but that's just me.

I'll leave you to your insults.......... have at it.......

"There is absolutely no reason for any official, of any sport, at any level to consume alcohol prior to working a game that day.

None................"


Dude, make up your mind.

[amusedofficial]

Originally Posted by Brutus

Dude, make up your mind.

Receiving communion in both species is not "consumption" of alcoholic beverages. First, the amount administered is generally less than a teaspoonful. Second, if you are a believer, you are not "consuming" an "alcoholic beverage."

Receiving "altar wine" is no more consuming alcoholic beverages than receiving the host during the sacrament of the Eucharist is having a sandwich.

Oh, and the difference is not just theological. When was the last time you saw a Catholic Church raided by the vice squad for distributing holy communion in both species without a liquor license?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

Receiving communion in both species is not "consumption" of alcoholic beverages. First, the amount administered is generally less than a teaspoonful. Second, if you are a believer, you are not "consuming" an "alcoholic beverage."

Receiving "altar wine" is no more consuming alcoholic beverages than receiving the host during the sacrament of the Eucharist is having a sandwich.

Oh, and the difference is not just theological. When was the last time you saw a Catholic Church raided by the vice squad for distributing holy communion in both species without a liquor license?

You're assuming a very specific theology here. Not everyone who takes communion subscribes to transubstantiation.

And if the churches were selling the wine, you can bet they'd be raided.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

Receiving communion in both species is not "consumption" of alcoholic beverages. First, the amount administered is generally less than a teaspoonful. Second, if you are a believer, you are not "consuming" an "alcoholic beverage."

Receiving "altar wine" is no more consuming alcoholic beverages than receiving the host during the sacrament of the Eucharist is having a sandwich.

Oh, and the difference is not just theological. When was the last time you saw a Catholic Church raided by the vice squad for distributing holy communion in both species without a liquor license?

You missed the point.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

If you are a believer.

Jesus said unto them, “I am the bread of life: he that comes to me shall never hunger. I am that bread of life.” (John 6:35, 48)