block/charge by rule

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Actually, the very first two responses in thread addressed it.

I'm more prone to read msg #7.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm more prone to read msg #7.

LMAO

I still haven't found out whether I was wrong, though.

[splitveer]

Thanks for all the thoughts. My big concern was with time and distance. I do know that if LGP was established before A2 left the floor then caught the ball it will be a charge. If A2 lands then crashes into B1 who has established LGP then it is also a charge. The key here is gaining LGP to enforce the block charge call. I didn't know if because A2 was in the air without the ball he had the same stipulations as in a time and distance situation with someone moving without the ball. My interpretation through this process and the rule book has led me to when A2 catches the ball he is now under the same rules as a player in control of the ball and time and distance are not required.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by splitveer

Thanks for all the thoughts. My big concern was with time and distance. I do know that if LGP was established before A2 left the floor then caught the ball it will be a charge. If A2 lands then crashes into B1 who has established LGP then it is also a charge. The key here is gaining LGP to enforce the block charge call. I didn't know if because A2 was in the air without the ball he had the same stipulations as in a time and distance situation with someone moving without the ball. My interpretation through this process and the rule book has led me to when A2 catches the ball he is now under the same rules as a player in control of the ball and time and distance are not required.

So was I right in assuming, with your play, that B1 had established LGP prior to A2 becoming airborne?

You're right, Time and Distance aren't relevant, even if he leaves the floor without the ball, once A2 makes the catch.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

So was I right in assuming, with your play, that B1 had established LGP prior to A2 becoming airborne?

You're right, Time and Distance aren't relevant, even if he leaves the floor without the ball, once A2 makes the catch.

Not clear until he clarifies this:

Originally Posted by splitveer

...and while in the air A2 caught the ball with B1 gaining legal guarding position...

Reads like B1 was still moving to get LGP when A2 was airborne. Now, if he were to amend to read: ...and while in the air A2 caught the ball with B1 having gained legal guarding position prior to A2 leaving his feet...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Reads like B1 was still moving to get LGP when A2 was airborne. Now, if he were to amend to read: ...and while in the air A2 caught the ball with B1 having gained legal guarding position prior to A2 leaving his feet...

The only problem with that is that B1's position, at the time A1 jumped, may not have been LGP (not enough time/distance given the status of A1 and the ball at that moment) but only became so when A1 subsequently caught the ball. When A1 catches the ball, a postion taken by a defender that was would have been too late to have LGP on a player without the ball can become LGP. As long as B1 was simply in the spot before A1 jumps or allows room for A1 to land if the got to the spot after A1 jumped.

[splitveer]

You are correct.