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Old Tue Feb 09, 2010, 03:45pm
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He doesn't even have to be still. B1 falls to the floor. He rolls away from A1 as he attempts to get up. A1 runs over him. This is not a foul on B1.
Depends. B1 is now a moving player without LGP, so depending on how contact happens, it may or may not be a foul on B1.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2010, 03:52pm
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Depends. B1 is now a moving player without LGP, so depending on how contact happens, it may or may not be a foul on B1.
If A1 and B1 are in the same path, jar is right. If, however, A1 is airborne and B1 rolls into his path/landing spot....
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2010, 03:54pm
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If A1 and B1 are in the same path, jar is right. If, however, A1 is airborne and B1 rolls into his path/landing spot....
Agreed, plus a number of other scenarios depending on the specific direction of the movement and actions of both players.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2010, 03:55pm
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Depends. B1 is now a moving player without LGP, so depending on how contact happens, it may or may not be a foul on B1.

Note the italicized word. If B1 is moving away from A1, no foul on B1.
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2010, 04:01pm
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Note the italicized word. If B1 is moving away from A1, no foul on B1.
Sure, though an airborne player could provide a different outcome even if the direction was away.
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Sure, though an airborne player could provide a different outcome even if the direction was away.
How?
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Old Tue Feb 09, 2010, 04:05pm
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If A1 leaves his feet to go over prone B1, and then B1 rolls away from the player into the landing area, that's a foul on B1.
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Old Sun Nov 13, 2011, 04:42pm
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Had this in BV game: B1 falls to the floor in transition, and in an effort to protect themself, covers face with both hands and lies motionless...

A1, who was dribbling the ball, must not have seen B1 - changed direction and trip over B1. A1 goes to the floor ball continues forward where B2 grabs the ball and continues the other way.

I call nothing from the T position. C also had nothing. We got an earful from home coach and crowd.

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Old Sun Nov 13, 2011, 06:48pm
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Had this in BV game: B1 falls to the floor in transition, and in an effort to protect themself, covers face with both hands and lies motionless...

A1, who was dribbling the ball, must not have seen B1 - changed direction and trip over B1. A1 goes to the floor ball continues forward where B2 grabs the ball and continues the other way.

I call nothing from the T position. C also had nothing. We got an earful from home coach and crowd.

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Nothing.
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Old Sun Nov 13, 2011, 07:59pm
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The NCAA rule (well, interp) is differetn from the FED interp on this.
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Old Sun Nov 13, 2011, 09:05pm
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The NCAA rule (well, interp) is differetn from the FED interp on this.
That's my recollection: NFHS, player is entitled to spot on floor, so it's either PC or nothing. NCAA: block.
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Twist. B1 falls to the floor directly behind A1 not giving him a step. A1 steps back and falls over B1. Illegal screen?
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Old Mon Nov 14, 2011, 12:16am
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Twist. B1 falls to the floor directly behind A1 not giving him a step. A1 steps back and falls over B1. Illegal screen?
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Twist. B1 falls to the floor directly behind A1 not giving him a step. A1 steps back and falls over B1. Illegal screen?
Note sure I'd call it a screen when it is B1...but a block for sure. Screening is typically an action performed by team A.
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Note sure I'd call it a screen when it is B1...but a block for sure. Screening is typically an action performed by team A.
Typically, but not definitively.
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