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Yes I was joking, although the thought of holding the title "Dumbest Post Ever Made" is a very tempting.
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I dunno... I guess I'll be the lone one here but I'm still getting rid of white #10.
After getting decked, he basically took a full step toward black #23 as he was walking away and shoved him in the back. Again, just my take on the situation. |
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I totally defend your right to run him, but the rationale would need to be the same regardless of other action. Personally this is getting a T from me, and would at any other point in the game. It's not flagrant, IMO. He's also not getting a pass from me because B23 punched him. It was not to protect himself. |
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#10 didn't retaliate by fighting. He protected himself from getting another cheap shot. can't agree at all with you on that one, Tanner. |
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After another look I see what you are talking about JR... however, white #10 also took a fist full of black #23's jersey with his other hand.
While I agree that it was probably natural for white #10 to grab the arm closest to him, black #23 was turning and walking away. Then white #10 took a step and shoved him. I certainly can't blame white #10 for doing what he did after he got jacked. But if I only had one look at it and I saw what white #10 did I would of had a flagrant technical. Again, I think it'd be interesting to see what the Fed's ruling on this would be. I would have a hard time believing they would allow white #10 to stay in the game... but who knows. Last edited by tjones1; Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:00pm. |
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B23 still has his hand in W10's chect. I can see why W10 is going to push away the person who just jacked him the face if they still are making contact, whether W23 is walking away or not. Remember that this happened second after he was just jacked in the face with absolutely no provocation. |
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A T I can see, someone else has a flagrant T and I struggle with that. As quick as it occurred, I see it as a mix of instinct and protection. |
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I haven't even seen the video...I am at work, and You Tube is blocked...but, I just have to give an opinion. (Mainly because I RARELY get to disagree with JR)
The "Good Book" says "turn the other cheek"...I'm not really sure if the Rule Book has precedence...but, this White #10 doesn't sound like he "turned the other cheek". White #10 got INVOLVED. (pushed back) KISS...Keep It Simple Stupid...principals apply. I don't want to have to make these minute decisions (was it a defensive push, or was it protection, or what was it?) after a big melay like this...just "KISS" and eject accordingly.
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You'd like to think a coach would tell his players, at the beginning of the season, if anything like this were to ever happen, that his bench players should stay put. What a mess to have to sort out. Glad it was someone else. Also, lots of and way too many fans who aren't sitting in the bleachers. These people need to find seats or get out of the gym. Not the responsibility of the officials, but it would make their jobs a little easier.
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Unless the calling official got info from one of his partners and determined that the original foul was intentional, then I have no problem with shooting 2 free throws for the original foul. |
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I'm running him. |
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This can only help us out. The biggest problem I see is that the officials did not have control of this game. There is NO FREAKIN' WAY I am letting the crowd linger on the sideline or baseline as they are doing here. If they have to come and go there, fine, but I insist that someone keep them moving. |
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