Timeout situation

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Do you hold to this when the coach says "Side out!" and a TO is granted? What if a spectator behind the bench says it? They have as much authority here as anyone on the bench.

In these cases no one who mattered asked for a timeout. Totally different.

Next you say that nobody else on the bench has this authority. True. But the HC is responsible for the actions of the bench, so if he didn't want them asking for timeouts, he should have let them know.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

In these cases no one who mattered asked for a timeout. Totally different.

Next you say that nobody else on the bench has this authority. True. But the HC is responsible for the actions of the bench, so if he didn't want them asking for timeouts, he should have let them know.

And the official is responsible to make sure it's requested by someone who has the authority to do so. This is a completely different scenario than a player or HC requesting it at the wrong time; they have the authority to request it, so if should be held responsible if you accidentally grant it.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And the official is responsible to make sure it's requested by someone who has the authority to do so. This is a completely different scenario than a player or HC requesting it at the wrong time; they have the authority to request it, so if should be held responsible if you accidentally grant it.

I didn't realize which guy on the bench actually made the request.

I didn't realize the other team had the ball.

One doesn't seem a lot worse than the other to me.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I didn't realize which guy on the bench actually made the request.

I didn't realize the other team had the ball.

One doesn't seem a lot worse than the other to me.

One's by a "proper" person at an "improper" time.

The other's by an "improper person" which, by definition, also is at an "improper" time. It's 2x bad.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I didn't realize which guy on the bench actually made the request.

I didn't realize the other team had the ball.

One doesn't seem a lot worse than the other to me.

I think they're both equal mistakes by the officials.

They are not both equal mistakes by the teams, however.

[just another ref]

Last week, in the now famous "Vote of Confidence" game, I was passing the home bench and heard "Timeout." I blew the whistle and made the signal just as I realized that it was the ac who had actually spoken the words. What would you have done in this situation?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Last week, in the now famous "Vote of Confidence" game, I was passing the home bench and heard "Timeout." I blew the whistle and made the signal just as I realized that it was the ac who had actually spoken the words. What would you have done in this situation?

I'd have asked the HC if he wanted one. If not, IW and play on (unless the other coach requests one at this point). If so, grant it and move on.