3 person going away?

[mick]

Cutting back on 3-whistle is one way to cut costs.

Who knows...? Maybe they'll even start using coaches that don't know the rules.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mick

Cutting back on 3-whistle is one way to cut costs.

So would buying a few less basketballs or making uniforms last another season. Or they could raise admission by a quarter.

They simply don't care about having 3 officials here in Wisconsin. Or in many other places.

[BktBallRef]

I'm thankful to work in a state that has mandated 3 man for all varsity games since 1991.

[mick]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I'm thankful to work in a state that has mandated 3 man for all varsity games since 1991.

...But snow plows are not.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by mick

...But snow plows are not.

I don't get it. Why would you need a snow plow for a varsity game?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I don't get it. Why would you need a snow plow for a varsity game?

I lost three more games due to snow this weekend.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I don't get it. Why would you need a snow plow for a varsity game?

To clear the free throw line when the home team is about to shoot potential game winning free throws with no time on the clock?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

To clear the free throw line when the home team is about to shoot potential game winning free throws with no time on the clock?

You kill houseflies with a shotgun, don't you.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I'm thankful to work in a state that has mandated 3 man for all varsity games since 1991.

And this is my main gripe with Wisconsin.

They could've planned this -- suggest that conferences and schools pay less for 2-3 years as a period of transition (most of us not in this for the cash would've taken $45 or so instead of the $60 we get now) and mandate 3 officials for varsity games. But they won't. It's frustrating. They do mandate that no game can start with less than 2 officials, so they could mandate 3 if they wanted to. They won't.

We'll *never* have 3 person all over this state. And we go backwards at the first sign of a "bad economy".

[JRutledge]

Well I do not live in a state that mandates it for regular season, but the IHSA assigns all post season games and they use only 3 Person Officiating crews. And as a result most conferences would not even think about going back to 2 Person.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

And this is my main gripe with Wisconsin.

They could've planned this -- suggest that conferences and schools pay less for 2-3 years as a period of transition (most of us not in this for the cash would've taken $45 or so instead of the $60 we get now) and mandate 3 officials for varsity games. But they won't. It's frustrating. They do mandate that no game can start with less than 2 officials, so they could mandate 3 if they wanted to. They won't.

We'll *never* have 3 person all over this state. And we go backwards at the first sign of a "bad economy".

Sorry about that Rich, doesn't say much about the state of basketball in Wisconsin. With all the bureaucratic waste at school levels, paying an extra official 55-60 bucks a game for probably 25-30 games both boys and girls is ludicrous. They probably waste that much in pencils over a school year.

Sad

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Sorry about that Rich, doesn't say much about the state of basketball in Wisconsin. With all the beaucratic waste at school levels, paying an extra official 55-60 bucks a game for probably 25-30 games both boys and girls is ludicrous. They probably waste that much in pencils over a school year.

Sad

We're talking 22 games a season (11 boys, 11 girls). At $60/game, this comes to $1320 over 22 dates. If they draw 240 people to each game, they'd only need collect a quarter from each person attending.

The state has given the message that "2-person is OK" by leaving the first 2 rounds of the playoffs 2-person. If it's good enough for them in games where the loser is done for the season....

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

We're talking 22 games a season (11 boys, 11 girls). At $60/game, this comes to $1320 over 22 dates. If they draw 240 people to each game, they'd only need collect a quarter from each person attending.

The state has given the message that "2-person is OK" by leaving the first 2 rounds of the playoffs 2-person. If it's good enough for them in games where the loser is done for the season....

Yeah - but then they "encourage" you to attend 3 person camps and will even give you a "varsity" game credit if you do attend. And - they use only 3 person crews for sectional and state tournament games.

I think it's funny that you can attend a camp and pay a fee to go to that camp and officiate in a 3 person crew for a summer invitational tournament where teams are paying rather large fees to attend and play in as well. Some of those guys are making serious cash on both players and officials.

[Jeremy Hohn]

Thank goodness that our governing body in Texas, the UIL, is governed by a Division 1 official tha sees the NEED to cover these games better with 3 officials and develop them to more easily move up in levels into the college level. With all the oil $$ flowing in our states, and the "robin hood" rule that takes state money from the "richer" counties and helps distribute that to lesser school districts...

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I'm thankful to work in a state that has mandated 3 man for all varsity games since 1991.

Amen to that. Whether it is a state rule or not, our association has mandated 3-man at the JV level for 10 years or more, at least.

On the rare occasion I do a 2-man game I have to call my son (a budding official in Kansas) for mechanics advice.