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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 08:36am
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How did the young official in your crew do?
Any lessons that may useful to us newbies?
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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 11:19am
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How did the young official in your crew do?
Any lessons that may useful to us newbies?
Yeah...and I wasn't there.

Primary, primary, primary.

When you are on ball referee your primary hard and call all the obvious fouls and violations.

When you are off-ball, referee your primary hard and get those subtle things that can mess up your game: elbows; displacement in the post (offense & defense); grabbing jerseys; bumping cutters of their course; illegal screens/picks.

If you have to split hairs on a call don't blow your whistle.

Do those things and your more experienced partners will be happy with you.
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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 05:01pm
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How did the young official in your crew do?
Any lessons that may useful to us newbies?
The young guy was largely invisible. He did make his OOB calls on his lines, quickly and decisively, but he called very little else, especially in the second half.

My advice to him, and you, is to not be intimidated by your surroundings. I had called a two man game with this guy at a smaller school last month and thought he did an excellent job, but I think too much stuff was thrown at him at once, bigger school, bigger crowd, faster pace, three man mechanics. He kind of shrunk from the task.
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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 05:25pm
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It is truly a small world. Today I went on a short road trip. On the way home passing through the town of the visitors from last night, I pulled in at Burger King to use the rest room. First thing I see is the bus of the home school from last night. First person I see is the head coach. We exchanged waves. When I came out of the rest room he followed me outside and we talked. He was mainly asking that I plead his case with the assignor against sending two out of three officials with such limited experience to call an important district game at this level. There was very little I could say, since I felt the same way before the game ever started. I didn't want to throw my partners under the bus, but the fact is, they were already under the bus, and we both knew it. I directed his attention toward myself instead.

"I know this was not the prettiest game. I obviously extended my area and made a lot of calls, but I felt like I did what I needed to do. I don't know how you saw the game. You may think I was most of the problem."

He responded at least somewhat in agreement.

"I know you were forced to fix some of their mistakes, and to make some calls when they just would have called nothing. It just looks bad to the fans when one guy has to make all the calls."

No argument there.
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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 05:34pm
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[QUOTE=just another ref;657076 I didn't want to throw my partners under the bus, but the fact is, they were already under the bus, and we both knew it. I directed his attention toward myself instead.

"I know this was not the prettiest game. I obviously extended my area and made a lot of calls, but I felt like I did what I needed to do. I don't know how you saw the game. You may think I was most of the problem."

He responded at least somewhat in agreement.

"I know you were forced to fix some of their mistakes, and to make some calls when they just would have called nothing. It just looks bad to the fans when one guy has to make all the calls."

No argument there.[/QUOTE] Ouch. As one who has many times been the "problem" partner, I can honestly say I hope I never have to work with you. I've already got all the tire tracks I need running across my face...
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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 05:55pm
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Ouch. As one who has many times been the "problem" partner, I can honestly say I hope I never have to work with you. I've already got all the tire tracks I need running across my face...
You're gonna have to go back and highlight the tire tracks in my post, because I don't follow. What would you have said to the guy?
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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 06:18pm
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What would you have said to the guy?
Nothing.

If he has questions about individual calls that you made, answer them. But never intimate that you were making those calls because your partners won't. Don't discuss your partners in any way with a coach. Save that for your assignor.

How would you have felt if you found out that a partner of yours had told a coach that he had to make a lot of calls because you weren't making them?
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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 06:44pm
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How would you have felt if you found out that a partner of yours had told a coach that he had to make a lot of calls because you weren't making them?
If that were true and was already obvious to everyone, I have no problem with it.
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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 06:13pm
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I didn't want to throw my partners under the bus, but the fact is, they were already under the bus, and we both knew it.

"I know this was not the prettiest game. I obviously extended my area and made a lot of calls, but I felt like I did what I needed to do.
Did you really need to infer to the coach that your partners were bad and that you had to make a lot of calls to make up for them?

That's exactly what the red-highlighted statement above told the coach.

Imo you threw both of your partners under the bus. Not very professional at all. Your assignor is gonna have a helluva job now trying to get both of your partners accepted at that school in the future, no matter how much they improve.
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Old Sat Jan 30, 2010, 06:43pm
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Did you really need to infer to the coach that your partners were bad and that you had to make a lot of calls to make up for them?
Didn't have to infer anything. He saw the game. He isn't blind. I offered myself up to take the blame.


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"You may think I was most of the problem."
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