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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 11:19am
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Where was your partner?

Exactly where did the collision occur?
That's the thing. I'm not exactly sure where he was.

The collision occurred pretty much on the opposite block from me.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 11:23am
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That's the thing. I'm not exactly sure where he was.

The collision occurred pretty much on the opposite block from me.
In the paint or outside the paint. If outside the paint, and your partner was in position to call it, then I say it was your partner's call to make.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 11:35am
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I think it is something you should cover in pregame. One thing I always talk about is the Lead's inclination to go with a charge or block immediately. Right or wrong this is what happens IMO. I also agree with the person who made the comment about plays during transition. As the Lead, you were likely trying to get back and receive the play which it sounds like you did successfully. Also, you are watching the play so you didn't know where the Trail (This was two man?) was.

On the flip side, the C or T should be given the opportunity to work his or her primary. I think it is a slippery slope at times, made worse by the fact that is could vary from night to night depending on what you pregame. In the end, I think the best advice is to pregame it and constantly attempt to improve awareness of things like double whistles and locating your partner to the best of your ability.

Was B1 the primary defender?
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 11:43am
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I think it is something you should cover in pregame. One thing I always talk about is the Lead's inclination to go with a charge or block immediately. Right or wrong this is what happens IMO. I also agree with the person who made the comment about plays during transition. As the Lead, you were likely trying to get back and receive the play which it sounds like you did successfully. Also, you are watching the play so you didn't know where the Trail (This was two man?) was.

On the flip side, the C or T should be given the opportunity to work his or her primary. I think it is a slippery slope at times, made worse by the fact that is could vary from night to night depending on what you pregame. In the end, I think the best advice is to pregame it and constantly attempt to improve awareness of things like double whistles and locating your partner to the best of your ability.

Was B1 the primary defender?
I'll definitely be bringing this up in my next pregame. It was a 2-man game. If it were a 3 man game, this would be the C's call correct?
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 01:01pm
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After all the woulda, shoulda, coulda, whose primary etc etc ........... when a blarge occurs it is a double foul. We try and stay in our primary and look to partner to communicate but these sometimes happen. Report the double foul and move on - always trying to improve.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 03:56pm
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I always pregame with my "outside" officials (C &T) to have delayed whistles on drives to the basket due to the instinct of the lead to signal. In this case the trail had NO BUSINESS taking that call, and if this is pregamed with someone who LISTENS to it, that shouldn't happen.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 04:04pm
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I always pregame with my "outside" officials (C &T) to have delayed whistles on drives to the basket due to the instinct of the lead to signal. In this case the trail had NO BUSINESS taking that call, and if this is pregamed with someone who LISTENS to it, that shouldn't happen.
If the Trail was in position, the play was in his primary. The OP has stated he didn't know the trails positioning on this play.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 08:00pm
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 11:41am
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In the paint or outside the paint. If outside the paint, and your partner was in position to call it, then I say it was your partner's call to make.
It was outside the paint. And I agree with you that if he was in position, it's his call all the way, and I should have just gone with a fist up or nothing at all.
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