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Old Tue Jan 26, 2010, 11:41pm
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...or it should have been anyway.

I realized it after it happened. I want to get your thoughts on the situation.

Team A has the ball in transition. I'm already in position as the new lead on the endline. I'm on the right side of the lane, and A1 is driving down the left side. B1 is set up for the charge, and A1 makes contact, and displaces B1. I whistle and signal the charge.

But guess what? Partner has a block. He sprints to the table and reports the foul before I could blink.

Now I know what I should have done, and I won't let it happen again.

After the game, my partner said that he didn't hear my whistle or see me signal. He said that the call should go to whose ever primary area it is. Fine, but I'm not sure where he was in relation to the play.

Again this play was in transition. My question is, should this have been my call all the way since I was in position already?
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Old Tue Jan 26, 2010, 11:58pm
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depends on what you pregame.

from the sound of this it happened in his primary and in my games the first whistle goes to the primary official. Partner should be the secondary. Assuming this contact took place at or outside the opposite block.
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Old Tue Jan 26, 2010, 11:59pm
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 12:07am
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 12:08am
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depends on what you pregame.

from the sound of this it happened in his primary and in my games the first whistle goes to the primary official. Partner should be the secondary. Assuming this contact took place at or outside the opposite block.
I see what you're saying. Does your point still hold true if he's, say, at the division line trying to keep up with the play?
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 04:24am
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I see what you're saying. Does your point still hold true if he's, say, at the division line trying to keep up with the play?
No. On a fast break (or long pass) The entire FC is the lead's primary until the trail is in position to cover their primary. If the trail was at the division line while the play was in the paint, that should be the lead's primary.

Even if the trail was in position, it could still be the lead's call depending on where the defender originated. The lead should be covering defenders originating in their primary when a play is coming in from outside their primary.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 09:55am
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I see what you're saying. Does your point still hold true if he's, say, at the division line trying to keep up with the play?
Where was your partner?

Exactly where did the collision occur?
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 10:13am
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report both the fouls and POI next time
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 11:19am
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Where was your partner?

Exactly where did the collision occur?
That's the thing. I'm not exactly sure where he was.

The collision occurred pretty much on the opposite block from me.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 11:23am
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That's the thing. I'm not exactly sure where he was.

The collision occurred pretty much on the opposite block from me.
In the paint or outside the paint. If outside the paint, and your partner was in position to call it, then I say it was your partner's call to make.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 09:12am
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...or it should have been anyway.

I realized it after it happened. I want to get your thoughts on the situation.

Team A has the ball in transition. I'm already in position as the new lead on the endline. I'm on the right side of the lane, and A1 is driving down the left side. B1 is set up for the charge, and A1 makes contact, and displaces B1. I whistle and signal the charge.

But guess what? Partner has a block. He sprints to the table and reports the foul before I could blink.

Now I know what I should have done, and I won't let it happen again.

After the game, my partner said that he didn't hear my whistle or see me signal. He said that the call should go to whose ever primary area it is. Fine, but I'm not sure where he was in relation to the play.

Again this play was in transition. My question is, should this have been my call all the way since I was in position already?
Yikes.......did the coaches see the signals?
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 11:20am
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Yikes.......did the coaches see the signals?
I don't know that. Neither coach said anything. This was right in front of A's bench, so his girl went to the line to shoot. The players sure noticed though.
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Old Wed Jan 27, 2010, 12:02pm
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I whistle and signal the charge.
I learned to hold that arm up and avoid showing the charge signal for just a smidge. Then make eye contact with your P and get a nod or a point - it helps to avoid this. Again, like you, lesson learned the hard way! Good to pregame!
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