Opinions....thoughts

[rockyroad]

I had a boy's V game a few years back where two guys from the home team went head-to-chin going for a loose ball. Kid who took it on the chin was down and out - and yes, even though I am no medical professional even lowly referee me could tell he was unconscious. After about 10 min. of being taken care of by trainers, he is helped to the bench. I tell coach he is done without a Dr. approval.

Come back out for second half, and coach is waiting for us at the table. Turns out the family doctor was there (had a son on the same team) and "approved" the kid to play. Had them staple the written note into scorebook and away we went. Kid comes off the bench in third quarter and proceeds to wander aimlessly around the court on defense. At a dead ball, I asked him if he was OK and he called me "Dad". I turned to the coach - but he had heard the whole thing and got a sub up. As I turn back to the player, he starts vomiting all over the place. They ended up getting him to the hospital and he missed two weeks with a severe concussion.

So the moral is - err on the side of caution. Cause sometimes the coaches (and even the doctor) won't.

[bbcoach7]

Originally Posted by fiasco

They really shouldn't have tried to get her up so quickly. Where was the coach on this one???

hopefully in his box where he belongs, waiting to be summoned onto the court

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bbcoach7

hopefully in his box where he belongs, waiting to be summoned onto the court

It's not his box. It's called a "coaching box," not a "coach's box."

[deecee]

Originally Posted by bbcoach7

hopefully in his box where he belongs, waiting to be summoned onto the court

In certain situations, and this is one of them, if a coach runs on the court to tend to his/her players, I consider them summoned even if I didnt have to look at the coach and say "Hey coach you want to deal with this..."

[bbcoach7]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's not his box. It's called a "coaching box," not a "coach's box."

BS Until I lose it by going howler monkey, other than the seat of my chair, that's the only space on the court that is mine! And I'm not conceeding it to word play, or semantics, or a rule book reference.

sorry, I calmed down, the box is whatever you say it is sir, I'm gonna go sit dowm now

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bbcoach7

BS Until I lose it by going howler monkey, other than the seat of my chair, that's the only space on the court that is mine! And I'm not conceeding it to word play, or semantics, or a rule book reference.

sorry, I calmed down, the box is whatever you say it is sir, I'm gonna go sit dowm now

Easy coach. I'm not going to have you coaching me like I'm one of your players. If you have a question, I'll be happy to answer.

[bbcoach7]

OK, this is a coaches perspective and one that I've not even heard from other coaches. But I am known as a coach who is really into and observant of the mental/emotional aspects of coaching girls. I feel it's a must if you want to get the most out of female players. There's an old coaching saying, "girls don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." Boys (90% or more) will "run through the wall" whether they like their coach or not because of the competetive nature of boys. Girls are different.

Boys grow up playing basketball in unsupervised situations; after school, in parks, in the driveway, at recess with the lunch monitor no where in sight, etc. When I was 10 yrs old, if I shoved an airborne shooter (layup) into the basket support pole, there's a good chance I'd get punched in the mouth because there's no adult right there to make sure that doesn't happen. Boys develop a basic form of respect for their opponent that girls don't experience, because when girls start playing basketball, there is virtually always an adult with a whistle right there. With rare exception, girls only play in supervised conditions. There's no threat of physical consequences for doing something stupid like trying to hit an opponent in the face with the ball as hard as you can because you just got spun around on a hard foul.

Is this provable? Absolutely not. Did Red commit a hold foul? Sure did. Can only do something about what is visible and clear- the foul by Red.

Girls will dive, or barrel roll through an opponents legs when the ball is on the other side of those legs rolling out of bounds. When two are chasing a ball out of bounds, girls will use their momentum to continue to push their opponent into the stands, or into a close wall on an endline, when they could have just made a slight body adjustment in angle, or force and protected their opponent a little bit. Girls will "hip check" airborne shooters. Girls will take the legs out of the shooter on layup attempts. Girls will use the most foul disgusting language at opponents very quietly so referee's don't hear. Girls will throw the basketball directly at an opponents face. Girls will raise their elbows like a football O lineman while screening. I could go on, but there's no reason to.

I believe that boys learn at an early age to not do these kinds of things. They learn an essential and very basic respect for their opponents that girls miss out on. I'm not saying that ALL girls play this way. But I've seen the comments in posts in here, "Why is is that these things seem to always happen in girls games?"

Boys don't put up with that kind of thing. That exact thing happens in a boys game, and do you think the other 9 players are just standing around? I think there may be some tempers flared, or worse. In this video, I think her (white) body language says it all, "that's right, I just punched yoU in the face with the ball *****."

[Adam]

Coach, you got me thinking. I wonder if it doesn't also partially explain the whole "ball ball ball" think being only something girls do. Boys would, as the coach mentioned in another thread, set a hard screen pretty quickly. It's the equivalent of a high and tight pitch in baseball to a batter who took his sweet time circling the bases on his homerun the time before.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bbcoach7

Girls will dive, or barrel roll through an opponents legs when the ball is on the other side of those legs rolling out of bounds. When two are chasing a ball out of bounds, girls will use their momentum to continue to push their opponent into the stands, or into a close wall on an endline, when they could have just made a slight body adjustment in angle, or force and protected their opponent a little bit. Girls will "hip check" airborne shooters. Girls will take the legs out of the shooter on layup attempts. Girls will use the most foul disgusting language at opponents very quietly so referee's don't hear. Girls will throw the basketball directly at an opponents face. Girls will raise their elbows like a football O lineman while screening. I could go on, but there's no reason to.

I agree and one of the main reasons I stay away. Because when these girls fall and get hurt, it is not about what the coaches allow, it is that I did not call a foul that sometimes is not a foul. I have only seen girls get blazing mad when they are fouled during the course of a regular play. Boys have to build up to that problem and usually they get upset over the course of a situation.

And I do agree that boy's learn how to compete very early. Girls often come to the table late or did not compete as really young. Or at the very least we teach them not to be tough, so when they are confronted with contact or pain, they overreact. Of course this is not apply to all of them. The girls that compete hard and do not get mad tend to be the best players. They somewhere realize they do not have to get that girl back because she fouled her. But the girls that get run into and want to fight tend to be the problem makers. And too often there are way too many of those players.

Peace