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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 05:50pm
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No way did she lose consciousness. She just got her bell rung and didnt want to jump right up. So she laid there for about 3-5 seconds. Ive seen unconscious and bell rung. That is clearly bell rung. Im not stepping in doo unless I have to - I will ask the coach if he wants to sub her out.

also if a player is unconscious you will see all her teammates on the floor calling for help. They will most likely be giving the univeral sign for "someone get your rear end here shes out cold" which we all know is the furious cand wave to call someone over...
Did you watch all the way to the end of the video? I agree...I don't think she lost consciousness right away. I think she lost consciousness when she got up then fell flat on her face.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 05:53pm
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Did you watch all the way to the end of the video? I agree...I don't think she lost consciousness right away. I think she lost consciousness when she got up then fell flat on her face.
Damn, I'd quit watching at that point. No way she comes back in without a note after that.
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Old Wed Jan 20, 2010, 05:54pm
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Did you watch all the way to the end of the video? I agree...I don't think she lost consciousness right away. I think she lost consciousness when she got up then fell flat on her face.
Im with snaq on this - i quit too - shes done without a note.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 08:23am
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for those of you that said she lost conciousness, can i ask what medical school you attended which trained you to make that diagnosis from the chair in front of your computer screen?

while you may play the role of basketball official many evenings during the winter, don't pretend to be a medical professional....if you have a question about it, ask the trainer/medical staff at the game; don't make that judgement on your own.
I use to watch Doctor Quinn medicine woman. I see a player lose conciousness, I make them get a Doc's written approval before letting player in again,and I've done something wrong.

I'm on the side of the angels here.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 08:30am
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Getting one's "bell rung", from everything I've read is typically a concussion. You don't mess with concussions.

The way she fell gives me reasonable evidence of "lost consciousness". I'm erring on the side of caution here and there is no way that young woman is taking the floor in this game unless I get a Doctor's note.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 09:28am
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I had a boy's V game a few years back where two guys from the home team went head-to-chin going for a loose ball. Kid who took it on the chin was down and out - and yes, even though I am no medical professional even lowly referee me could tell he was unconscious. After about 10 min. of being taken care of by trainers, he is helped to the bench. I tell coach he is done without a Dr. approval.

Come back out for second half, and coach is waiting for us at the table. Turns out the family doctor was there (had a son on the same team) and "approved" the kid to play. Had them staple the written note into scorebook and away we went. Kid comes off the bench in third quarter and proceeds to wander aimlessly around the court on defense. At a dead ball, I asked him if he was OK and he called me "Dad". I turned to the coach - but he had heard the whole thing and got a sub up. As I turn back to the player, he starts vomiting all over the place. They ended up getting him to the hospital and he missed two weeks with a severe concussion.

So the moral is - err on the side of caution. Cause sometimes the coaches (and even the doctor) won't.
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