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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:15pm
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Speaking of uniform rules/regulations, rule 3-5-5 states:
Undershirts shall be a single solid color similar to the torso of the jersey & shall be hemmed & not have frayed or ragged edges. If the undershirt has sleeves, they shall be the same length. A visible manufacturer's logo/trademark/reference is not permitted on the undershirt.

During the Boys' C-Squad game the other night, V13 had a black undershirt on underneath a red jersey. During a dead ball, I buzzed the horn & asked about the player having the different undershirt color than jersey, the official's reponse was in non-Varsity contests they don't worry about it.

After asking, I noticed that H40 had a white undershirt on underneath a yellow jersey.

The reason why I asked was that I was curious about why the rule enforcement wasn't there.

To answer everyone's question, no Rookiedude was not one of the officials for that game.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:24pm
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If you are working the table, why did you buzz the horn and ask about it?
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:27pm
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If you are working the table, why did you buzz the horn and ask about it?
I was curious whether or not they were ignoring it or didn't notice it. It was during a dead ball situation at the time & the player I was asking about was an active player at the time.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:29pm
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Be curious when the game is over......
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:31pm
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I was curious whether or not they were ignoring it or didn't notice it. It was during a dead ball situation at the time & the player I was asking about was an active player at the time.
You were more than curious -- you were trying to help "your team". ANd, even during a dead ball, officials have things to do. If I was called over for such a trivial piece of crap, I'd be sure that you wouldn't have the opportunity to press the damn horn any more that evening.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:35pm
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You were more than curious -- you were trying to help "your team". ANd, even during a dead ball, officials have things to do. If I was called over for such a trivial piece of crap, I'd be sure that you wouldn't have the opportunity to press the damn horn any more that evening.
How could I be helping "my team" if one of the home team players was doing the same thing?

If that player hadn't of stepped onto the court as an active player, nothing would of been said.

The home team player was coming in as a sub at the time the dead ball happened, I just used the visiting player as an example.

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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:26pm
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During a dead ball, I buzzed the horn & asked about the player having the different undershirt color than jersey, .
I thought you weren't going to do that anymore?

My advice: Don't do it again.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:32pm
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I thought you weren't going to do that anymore?

My advice: Don't do it again.
I had a legit question concerning a rule interp. Play was dead at the time, so there was no IH.

As I said before, out of sight, out of mind on things. Concerning the undershirt being a different color than the jersey, kinda hard to ignore.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:46pm
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I had a legit question concerning a rule interp. Play was dead at the time, so there was no IH.

As I said before, out of sight, out of mind on things. Concerning the undershirt being a different color than the jersey, kinda hard to ignore.
OK, let's try one more time......

As the clock operator, the only legitimate questions are those specifically related to your job - everything else is none of your business.

As Bob mentioned, the officials have a number of things to do during a dead ball, not the least of which is to get the ball back into play as expediently as possible. Your actions hindered that and are completely unacceptable. I agree with Bob - do that in a game I'm working and you would be immediately replaced.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 09:51pm
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OK, let's try one more time......

As the clock operator, the only legitimate questions are those specifically related to your job - everything else is none of your business.

As Bob mentioned, the officials have a number of things to do during a dead ball, not the least of which is to get the ball back into play as expediently as possible. Your actions hindered that and are completely unacceptable. I agree with Bob - do that in a game I'm working and you would be immediately replaced.
Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?

The time that elapsed was only about 30 sec. from my asking to play continuing.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 10:28pm
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Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?
Quite honestly, it's not that hard to work a clock.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 10:40pm
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 10:44pm
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Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?

The time that elapsed was only about 30 sec. from my asking to play continuing.
You ask for a volunteer, and take another 30 seconds to "train" him.
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Old Sun Jan 17, 2010, 10:49pm
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Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?

The time that elapsed was only about 30 sec. from my asking to play continuing.
Don't kid yourself, it's not that tough a job - we'd find someone. I can, and have on a number of occasions, trained a completely inexperienced clock operator in the basics in one minute or less and have them do a great job.

30 seconds can be an eternity. There's an old adage - bad things happen during a dead ball - things like taunting and other unsportsmanlike acts. That's especially true when the players are intermixed on the court and an official's attention is distracted elsewhere.
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Old Mon Jan 18, 2010, 01:53pm
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Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?

The time that elapsed was only about 30 sec. from my asking to play continuing.
Barney Fife- put the one bullet back in your shirt pocket. While I agree it is a uniform violation, IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO ENFORCE!
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