uniform rule

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm just going to echo Bob on this one. Around here, we do enforce this at the JV level (did it last night with the first sub of the game), but I would not take kindly to the table asking me why it wasn't being enforced.

We are supposed to enforce the apparel regulations at all levels of HS play (Fr, JV, and V), but some officials don't bother.
If I didn't notice such an infraction and the table crew brought it to my attention, I wouldn't mind and I would deal with the issue at that time.
I'm not threatened by a scorer asking me about a rule. I know the rules pretty well.
Just my thoughts.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

We are supposed to enforce the apparel regulations at all levels of HS play (Fr, JV, and V), but some officials don't bother.
If I didn't notice such an infraction and the table crew brought it to my attention, I wouldn't mind and I would deal with the issue at that time.
I'm not threatened by a scorer asking me about a rule. I know the rules pretty well.
Just my thoughts.

Nevada,

How I asked was that I mentioned that according to my understanding of the rules, aren't undershirts to be the same color as the jersey.

I didn't mention the rule or rule # specifically. This was the reaction I was getting was they don't worry about it. Since that was the response I got, I again let bygones be bygones.

For everyone else,

I am mentioning what happened, as to me it seemed a bit odd that the rules as a whole seem to not be fully enforced at all levels of play. However, since again officials have the only say I just went off of what was told.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Nevada,

How I asked was that I mentioned that according to my understanding of the rules, aren't undershirts to be the same color as the jersey.

Actually, the rule, 3-5-5, states the undershirt shall be similar to the color of the torso of the jersey.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Actually, the rule, 3-5-5, states the undershirt shall be similar to the color of the torso of the jersey.

Sorry misquoted as I didn't have the text in front of me. MY BAD

How can black be similar to red?

How can white be mistaken as similar to yellow?

[Nevadaref]

1. If you asked me about the rule and said "same color," I would correct you and inform you that the rule only requires a similar color.

2. Now what is a similar color is up to the referee.

3. I didn't say anything about the specific colors in your situation.

4. I would not rule black as similar to red.

5. I would rule light green okay to wear with a dark green jersey or aqua as fine for going under a blue shirt.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

1. If you asked me about the rule and said "same color," I would correct you and inform you that the rule only requires a similar color.

2. Now what is a similar color is up to the referee.

3. I didn't say anything about the specific colors in your situation.

4. I would not rule black as similar to red.

5. I would rule light green okay to wear with a dark green jersey or aqua as fine for going under a blue shirt.

Understandable

Unfortunately I can't remember what I said verbatim considering everything that happened later that night. I do remember however that I didn't state any specific rule or rule #.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Sorry misquoted as I didn't have the text in front of me. MY BAD

How can black be similar to red?

How can white be mistaken as similar to yellow?

And you didn't ask the officials why the home team wasn't assessed a T for violation of 3-4-1-c.......interesting..........

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

And you didn't ask the officials why the home team wasn't assessed a T for violation of 3-4-1-c.......interesting..........

This was a C-Squad game, the only teams that currently have the required white jerseys are the V & JV squads, due to budget issues, at my alma mater.

Not all schools can be within the full regulations for all squads due to budgetary concerns.

Last year, both JV Squads were still wearing Yellow home jerseys, this year due to Varsity getting new uniforms, JV got last year's V uniforms.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Not all schools can be within the full regulations for all squads due to budgetary concerns.

Budgetary concerns are not addressed in the rulebook. Maybe you could write a letter on this subject to somebody.........or something.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Budgetary concerns are not addressed in the rulebook. Maybe you could write a letter on this subject to somebody.........or something.

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

And you didn't ask the officials why the home team wasn't assessed a T for violation of 3-4-1-c.......interesting..........

Hasn't 3-4-1c only be in effect for 2-3 years?

My understanding of the rule is that it is being enforced via a slow rollout in the WIAA. 1st year was Varsity only (wasn't last year the 1st year of the white home uniforms?), the next year JV & V, with all squads the year after.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Hasn't 3-4-1c only be in effect for 2-3 years?

My understanding of the rule is that it is being enforced via a slow rollout in the WIAA. 1st year was Varsity only (wasn't last year the 1st year of the white home uniforms?), the next year JV & V, with all squads the year after.

Yes, it's only been in force for a short time, but before that, schools knew it was coming for several years.

That said, the NFHS says it's only for varsity (as Nevada stated).

Around here, it's more like Nevada's area WRT undershirts. The prevailing thought is, they've had enough time to learn the rule by the time they get to high school.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

We are supposed to enforce the apparel regulations at all levels of HS play (Fr, JV, and V), but some officials don't bother.
If I didn't notice such an infraction and the table crew brought it to my attention, I wouldn't mind and I would deal with the issue at that time.
I'm not threatened by a scorer asking me about a rule. I know the rules pretty well.
Just my thoughts.

Well you are wrong in many situations. Many states do not have strict enforcement of uniform rules at the other levels. And yes that includes lower level games. Most of the time the kids are in "warm-up" jerseys that do not fit all the regulations that apply. It is not about choice, it is about practice for many. That is certainly the case where I live and undershirts are not a major concern at the lower levels.

Peace