uniform rule

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I thought you weren't going to do that anymore?

My advice: Don't do it again.

I had a legit question concerning a rule interp. Play was dead at the time, so there was no IH.

As I said before, out of sight, out of mind on things. Concerning the undershirt being a different color than the jersey, kinda hard to ignore.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I had a legit question concerning a rule interp. Play was dead at the time, so there was no IH.

As I said before, out of sight, out of mind on things. Concerning the undershirt being a different color than the jersey, kinda hard to ignore.

OK, let's try one more time......

As the clock operator, the only legitimate questions are those specifically related to your job - everything else is none of your business.

As Bob mentioned, the officials have a number of things to do during a dead ball, not the least of which is to get the ball back into play as expediently as possible. Your actions hindered that and are completely unacceptable. I agree with Bob - do that in a game I'm working and you would be immediately replaced.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

OK, let's try one more time......

As the clock operator, the only legitimate questions are those specifically related to your job - everything else is none of your business.

As Bob mentioned, the officials have a number of things to do during a dead ball, not the least of which is to get the ball back into play as expediently as possible. Your actions hindered that and are completely unacceptable. I agree with Bob - do that in a game I'm working and you would be immediately replaced.

Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?

The time that elapsed was only about 30 sec. from my asking to play continuing.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?

Quite honestly, it's not that hard to work a clock.

[26 Year Gap]

The next AD I see who does not know how to operate the clock will be the first.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?

The time that elapsed was only about 30 sec. from my asking to play continuing.

You ask for a volunteer, and take another 30 seconds to "train" him.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?

The time that elapsed was only about 30 sec. from my asking to play continuing.

Don't kid yourself, it's not that tough a job - we'd find someone. I can, and have on a number of occasions, trained a completely inexperienced clock operator in the basics in one minute or less and have them do a great job.

30 seconds can be an eternity. There's an old adage - bad things happen during a dead ball - things like taunting and other unsportsmanlike acts. That's especially true when the players are intermixed on the court and an official's attention is distracted elsewhere.

[Man In Blue]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Ok, what would happen then if there was no one else available as there was no one trained?

The time that elapsed was only about 30 sec. from my asking to play continuing.

Barney Fife- put the one bullet back in your shirt pocket. While I agree it is a uniform violation, IT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO ENFORCE!

[26 Year Gap]

Now where is that game report from Friday night? I am guessing there was a 'no show'.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Now where is that game report from Friday night? I am guessing there was a 'no show'.

Probably in the process of writing it down.

Considering Rookiedude had an additional witness present, his brother.

We've done games together b4, where I've done scoreboard/timer & he as official.

Only of course, those were Sub-Varsity games.

[ODJ]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I had a legit question concerning a rule interp. Play was dead at the time, so there was no IH.

As I said before, out of sight, out of mind on things. Concerning the undershirt being a different color than the jersey, kinda hard to ignore.

Because it's a non-varsity game.

You asked during a substitution and don't think it interrupted the game?

Ya got (Walla Walla) onions, that's for sure.

[Adam]

I'm just going to echo Bob on this one. Around here, we do enforce this at the JV level (did it last night with the first sub of the game), but I would not take kindly to the table asking me why it wasn't being enforced.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm just going to echo Bob on this one. Around here, we do enforce this at the JV level (did it last night with the first sub of the game), but I would not take kindly to the table asking me why it wasn't being enforced.

We are supposed to enforce the apparel regulations at all levels of HS play (Fr, JV, and V), but some officials don't bother.
If I didn't notice such an infraction and the table crew brought it to my attention, I wouldn't mind and I would deal with the issue at that time.
I'm not threatened by a scorer asking me about a rule. I know the rules pretty well.
Just my thoughts.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

We are supposed to enforce the apparel regulations at all levels of HS play (Fr, JV, and V), but some officials don't bother.
If I didn't notice such an infraction and the table crew brought it to my attention, I wouldn't mind and I would deal with the issue at that time.
I'm not threatened by a scorer asking me about a rule. I know the rules pretty well.
Just my thoughts.

Nevada,

How I asked was that I mentioned that according to my understanding of the rules, aren't undershirts to be the same color as the jersey.

I didn't mention the rule or rule # specifically. This was the reaction I was getting was they don't worry about it. Since that was the response I got, I again let bygones be bygones.

For everyone else,

I am mentioning what happened, as to me it seemed a bit odd that the rules as a whole seem to not be fully enforced at all levels of play. However, since again officials have the only say I just went off of what was told.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Nevada,

How I asked was that I mentioned that according to my understanding of the rules, aren't undershirts to be the same color as the jersey.

Actually, the rule, 3-5-5, states the undershirt shall be similar to the color of the torso of the jersey.