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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:05pm
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I'm not always doing table operations for Varsity games.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:12pm
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I'm not always doing table operations for Varsity games.

You're not even a Varsity clock operator?
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 03:07pm
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You're not even a Varsity clock operator?
The only time so far I've done Varsity Scoreboard/Timer, was at 4A Regionals last February.

For Varsity games, I've been doing shot clock. However I don't do it every game.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 03:29pm
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The only time so far I've done Varsity Scoreboard/Timer, was at 4A Regionals last February.

For Varsity games, I've been doing shot clock. However I don't do it every game.
chseagle & rookiedude pregame:

"Hi I am chseagle, part time shot clock operator/part time crowd control representative. I will help you as much as I can. I reserve the right to overrule any call you make. I have been looking forward to working with you"
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chseagle & rookiedude pregame:

"Hi I am chseagle, part time shot clock operator/part time crowd control representative, part-time popcorn seller. I will help you as much as I can. I reserve the right to overrule any call you make because after watching the NBA for years, especially that rules genius Billy Packer, I know all the rules. I have been looking forward to working with you"
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Fixed it for ya'.
Billy Packer was not an NBA analyst to the best of my knowledge. Now go back in there and fix it right!
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 04:11pm
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 10:30pm
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Sorry but the NBA is way overrated, college & high school hoops are a lot funner to watch than overpaid chimps.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 04:32pm
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chseagle & rookiedude pregame:

"Hi I am chseagle, part time shot clock operator/part time crowd control representative. I will help you as much as I can. I reserve the right to overrule any call you make. I have been looking forward to working with you"
How many times do I have to say that the officials have final say? If I observe something like a sub with bobbies pins in hair or multiple coaches in coaches box, I just mention it to the officials. The officials have final say in what is going to be done concerning if a penalty is assessed.

Rookiedude,

Are you just scheduled for the Boys' V?
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 04:38pm
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How many times do I have to say that the officials have final say? If I observe something like a sub with bobbies pins in hair or multiple coaches in coaches box, I just mention it to the officials. The officials have final say in what is going to be done concerning if a penalty is assessed.
If the "multiple coaches standing" are a problem with your being able to see the action, say you're having trouble seeing the action.

Don't tell me multiple coaches are standing just because it's against the rules.

In fact, don't tell me anything just because it's against the rules.

If you see something unsafe (like bobby pins), some would find that helpful. I'd still find it outside your responsibility, but whatever.

And officials don't have the final say. They have the only say.
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if the "multiple coaches standing" are a problem with your being able to see the action, say you're having trouble seeing the action.

Don't tell me multiple coaches are standing just because it's against the rules.

In fact, don't tell me anything just because it's against the rules.

If you see something unsafe (like bobby pins), some would find that helpful. I'd still find it outside your responsibility, but whatever.

And officials don't have the final say. They have the only say.
final say=only say
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Old Fri Jan 15, 2010, 02:29pm
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How many times do I have to say that the officials have final say? If I observe something like a sub with bobbies pins in hair or multiple coaches in coaches box, I just mention it to the officials. The officials have final say in what is going to be done concerning if a penalty is assessed.

Rookiedude,

Are you just scheduled for the Boys' V?
chs....

Please refer to NFHS Rules Book Section 12. Articles 1-7. There is nothing that states your job is to help with bobbie pin, coaches box issues or anything else you seem to think is part of your duties as shot clock operator.

Actually the rule book doesn't even reference shot clock operators and their duties....kinda like an assistant coach....persona non grata....so I am stretching your contributions to the game by including you with the timer's responsibilities.
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Old Fri Jan 15, 2010, 02:46pm
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chs....

Please refer to NFHS Rules Book Section 12. Articles 1-7. There is nothing that states your job is to help with bobbie pin, coaches box issues or anything else you seem to think is part of your duties as shot clock operator.

Actually the rule book doesn't even reference shot clock operators and their duties....kinda like an assistant coach....persona non grata....so I am stretching your contributions to the game by including you with the timer's responsibilities.
When I've mentioned concerns to the officials, I've been scoreboard/timer, not shot clock.

The reason why the NFHS doesn't have rules/regulations about shot clock is cause of the fact that the NFHS doesn't support the shot clock as of yet.

As I have stated before, I do not make comments of concern to the officials during every game. I'd rather let bygones be bygones.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 04:45pm
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The only time so far I've done Varsity Scoreboard/Timer, was at 4A Regionals last February.

For Varsity games, I've been doing shot clock. However I don't do it every game.
Perhaps we can initiate a petition to the Athletic Director at 509-xxx-2911 and request he appoint our favorite poster to work the table at the Varsity game this Friday night. I am sure it will make rookiedude's day to have at least one reliable member on the table crew to consult with regarding rules issues and shot clock problems.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 04:54pm
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Perhaps we can initiate a petition to the Athletic Director at 509-xxx-2911 and request he appoint our favorite poster to work the table at the Varsity game this Friday night. I am sure it will make rookiedude's day to have at least one reliable member on the table crew to consult with regarding rules issues and shot clock problems.
I like the person that does Varsity Scoreboard/Timing, although she was running off of older regulations, that has since changed, she does a great job.

If I was asked to do it, I'd request someone else do it especially with the game that's scheduled.
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