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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:31pm
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This happened in my game last night.

A1 to shoot first of a 1 and 1. B1 lines up with his foot on the lane line. Partner extends arm out and makes fist to indicate a delayed violation. A1 then shoots an air ball with the ball going directly OOB. What's the proper call?

Would there be a different call if the shot was the first of a two shot foul?
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 01:16pm
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This happened in my game last night.

A1 to shoot first of a 1 and 1. B1 lines up with his foot on the lane line. Partner extends arm out and makes fist to indicate a delayed violation. A1 then shoots an air ball with the ball going directly OOB. What's the proper call?

Would there be a different call if the shot was the first of a two shot foul?
Missed the follow-up question....you shoot the 2nd FT.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 01:37pm
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I'm assuming Welpe is a spy from the Football forum until I get proof otherwise.
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I'm assuming Welpe is a spy from the Football forum until I get proof otherwise.
What would you like produced as proof?
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 04:32pm
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 04:38pm
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 10:24am
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How's this work for you?

I did a girl's 8th grade game last night that took 2 hours. We called 16 fouls in the first quarter and who knows how many held balls. The first half ended at 7 PM and I wasn't back in my car until 8:15. The score was tied at the end of the half and at the end of the game, the visitor's were up by 25 points.

Oh yeah my scheduled partner was a no-show but thankfully, somebody working at the school had gone through the official's training and had a shirt.

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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 10:32am
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How's this work for you?

I did a girl's 8th grade game last night that took 2 hours. We called 16 fouls in the first quarter and who knows how many held balls. The first half ended at 7 PM and I wasn't back in my car until 8:15. The score was tied at the end of the half and at the end of the game, the visitor's were up by 25 points.

Oh yeah my scheduled partner was a no-show but thankfully, somebody working at the school had gone through the official's training and had a shirt.

Believe me yet?
You're either:

a) Making all this stuff up, or
b) Having Padgett ghost write your material
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This happened in my game last night.

A1 to shoot first of a 1 and 1. B1 lines up with his foot on the lane line. Partner extends arm out and makes fist to indicate a delayed violation. A1 then shoots an air ball with the ball going directly OOB. What's the proper call?

Would there be a different call if the shot was the first of a two shot foul?
If I am A1 I am saying that "B1 disconcerted me", thus the shooter violation should be ignored.
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If I am A1 I am saying that "B1 disconcerted me", thus the shooter violation should be ignored.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 10:14am
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This happened in my game last night.

A1 to shoot first of a 1 and 1. B1 lines up with his foot on the lane line. Partner extends arm out and makes fist to indicate a delayed violation. A1 then shoots an air ball with the ball going directly OOB. What's the proper call?

Would there be a different call if the shot was the first of a two shot foul?
The answer is in NFHS Rule 9-1 Penalties 3 and 4b. You go to the arrow and do not shoot the second shot in 1-and-1.

If shooting 2 or three, that FT is dead and you would go to the next FT.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 11:43am
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The answer is in NFHS Rule 9-1 Penalties 3 and 4b. You go to the arrow and do not shoot the second shot in 1-and-1.

If shooting 2 or three, that FT is dead and you would go to the next FT.
Crap...didn't read the question close enough and completely missed that it was a 1-and-1. Made the same mistake on this year's written test for my board (not reading the question closely enough), and it cost me....missed the mandatory minimum grade required to move to the next steps in the HS certification process, floor evaluations and floor test.
Here if you are trying to make the board, you don't pass written test, you do not qualify for a floor evaluations or the floor test. So your year, as far as having a chance to continue on and move up a level, comes to a screeching halt. You have to start over again from the beginning next season.
Don't get me wrong, the year is not a total waste. It gives you another season to continue to work on your mechanics at the JV level (certified board guys do not work JV here). We have guys who have passed the written test to either not make it the floor test (due to low evaluation scores) or make it to the floor test and flunk it. Same deal...they have to go back to the beginning next season.
Got 10 wrong, had to get no more than 7 wrong, and there were at least3 I would have gotten correct if I had read the question more closely....lesson learned...the hard way.
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The answer is in NFHS Rule 9-1 Penalties 3 and 4b. You go to the arrow and do not shoot the second shot in 1-and-1.

If shooting 2 or three, that FT is dead and you would go to the next FT.
clear the lane for the 2nd throw and then go with the AP arrow ?
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 01:44pm
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clear the lane for the 2nd throw and then go with the AP arrow ?
No, if a second free throw followed (i.e. not a bonus situation) you'd just move to the second free throw and continue from there. Is that what you are asking?
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