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Mark Padgett Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:31pm

Here's one for the newbies
 
This happened in my game last night.

A1 to shoot first of a 1 and 1. B1 lines up with his foot on the lane line. Partner extends arm out and makes fist to indicate a delayed violation. A1 then shoots an air ball with the ball going directly OOB. What's the proper call?

Would there be a different call if the shot was the first of a two shot foul?

grunewar Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:51pm

Well then, that's different! Drive on! My bad.

KJUmp Wed Jan 13, 2010 01:06pm

My answer was going to be.....

6-4-5(c) An alternating possession throw-in shall result when:
(c) Simultaneous floor or free-throw violations occur.


...it still is even though a newbie with 1,700+ posts gave us the answer.

Mark: Maybe you could set some parameters as to who qualifies as a newbie the next time you post one of your "newbies only" situations. Gee Welpe, give us a chance. Us newbies have a difficult enough time following the complicated sitchs that are posted and debated by you experienced vets. Mark is trying to help us out here to see if we're actually learning something about the rules and how to properly apply them in a game sitch.

Welpe Wed Jan 13, 2010 01:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by KJUmp (Post 651085)
Gee Welpe, give us a chance.

Though I am honored that you consider me a veteran, of my 1700+ posts, almost all of them, prior to this basketball season were in the baseball, football and softball forums.

You actually have been officiating basketball for longer than I have. Despite that fact, I decided to delete my original post (before you responded). Sorry for any inconvenience I might've caused.

KJUmp Wed Jan 13, 2010 01:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 651056)
This happened in my game last night.

A1 to shoot first of a 1 and 1. B1 lines up with his foot on the lane line. Partner extends arm out and makes fist to indicate a delayed violation. A1 then shoots an air ball with the ball going directly OOB. What's the proper call?

Would there be a different call if the shot was the first of a two shot foul?

Missed the follow-up question....you shoot the 2nd FT.
Caseplay 6.4.3 Situation B.

grunewar Wed Jan 13, 2010 01:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 651089)
Though I am honored that you consider me a veteran, of my 1700+ posts, almost all of them, prior to this basketball season were in the baseball, football and softball forums.

You actually have been officiating basketball for longer than I have. Despite that fact, I decided to delete my original post (before you responded). Sorry for any inconvenience I might've caused.

This was my bad, as I "assumed" Welpe was a basketball vet, and this apparently is not the case.

So, welcome Newbie! ;)

Adam Wed Jan 13, 2010 01:37pm

I'm assuming Welpe is a spy from the Football forum until I get proof otherwise.

Zoochy Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 651056)
This happened in my game last night.

A1 to shoot first of a 1 and 1. B1 lines up with his foot on the lane line. Partner extends arm out and makes fist to indicate a delayed violation. A1 then shoots an air ball with the ball going directly OOB. What's the proper call?

Would there be a different call if the shot was the first of a two shot foul?

If I am A1 I am saying that "B1 disconcerted me", thus the shooter violation should be ignored.:D

Adam Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 651232)
If I am A1 I am saying that "B1 disconcerted me", thus the shooter violation should be ignored.:D

And I am laughing at you. :)

Welpe Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 651101)
I'm assuming Welpe is a spy from the Football forum until I get proof otherwise.

What would you like produced as proof? :cool:

Adam Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 651240)
What would you like produced as proof? :cool:

I'll know it when I see it. :)

Welpe Wed Jan 13, 2010 04:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 651248)
I'll know it when I see it. :)

You're taking obscurity lessons from my wife I see.

KJUmp Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 651089)
Though I am honored that you consider me a veteran, of my 1700+ posts, almost all of them, prior to this basketball season were in the baseball, football and softball forums.

You actually have been officiating basketball for longer than I have. Despite that fact, I decided to delete my original post (before you responded). Sorry for any inconvenience I might've caused.

Sorry Welpe....my bad.

Gargil Thu Jan 14, 2010 08:37am

Air balling a free throw is a violation, what is the signal? I always see the Officials do the finger pointed in the air twirl.

Freddy Thu Jan 14, 2010 08:43am

Isn't a Mechanic for This One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gargil (Post 651474)
Air balling a free throw is a violation, what is the signal? I always see the Officials do the finger pointed in the air twirl.

Just raise the open hand, air up the whistle, point to the spot of the violation (I just point towards the rim), then point to the spot for the throw-in.
Everyone knows it missed the rim.
The inverted toilet swirl, until it becomes approved, is ridiculous. Probably will be ridiculous if it does become approved.


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