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I have had coaches come on the court like in the first video and draw a technical. It's his reaction to the technical that I've not seen personally. My reaction would be to give him a second one in the same sequence -- would be nice if one of the other guys would've stepped in and done it, but considering the video, it wasn't going to happen. |
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In good ol' Virginia ,I think they call it assault and battery. Especially if it's on your kid(s) !
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![]() A little background. When my partner and I came out at 15 minutes to 6 for the JV game warmups, the gym was packed. They were hanging from the rafters. The visitors brought SIX chartered busloads of drunk adults the 2 hours by bus it took to come to the game! So the crowd was raucous and the HT fans were greatly outnumbered this night. In the second half, there was an apparently controversial call right by the half court line table side. I was leaning against the wall along the endline next to one of two police officers in the gym. The L was about three feet to my right and had roughly the same line of sight as I had. I realized as this controversial call was made that the L was watching the HC for the visitors. Sure enough, the HC stands up to protest the call and the L sprints down the sideline to issue the second T. The reaction in the video is nothing like the reaction from this guy. It took three assistand coaches to get him out of the gym as he just completely lost it. They almost carried him to the locker room. The game really degenerated from there and the game ended with the home team dribbing out the clock so that the officials could leave the court and be locked in the locker room with an armed guard and not allowed to leave until all the buses were loaded and gone. The AD insisted that I join them as he ddn't want to risk anything. It was the most unbelievable night of my career.
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I know that this topic has been discussed, but I wanted to respond to this thought. NFHS will not authorize the chop, because in the season it did so the number of "blops" (block/chop?) or foul/no-foul double calls would increase 100-fold. It's one thing if one official passes on a foul and another calls it. It's quite another to have conflicting signals on a play. The latter looks bad, IMO. Even apart from the question of whether we need a signal for a no-call, for this reason using the "chop" is bad mechanics.
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2. Bringing in the "tipped ball" signal to this discussion is a famous Rutledge red herring: there's no comparable reason to discontinue using that signal. 3. The issue is not whether the signal communicates something, but whether it's the best way to communicate that content. Specifically, is it better than the mere absence of a whistle? Given its drawbacks, the answer is no, IMO. 4. You are, of course, free to ignore this reasoning and to keep doing it your way. That's not a reason supporting your view, though.
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Now I did not say anything about whether it was a good mechanic or not. That was not the point. The point was that in this situation right or wrong the use of not use of a signal was not going to make that much difference as to whether the coach went off in my opinion. Coaches go off no matter what we do or do not do. And you can be sarcastic all you like, but just read this site, there are all kinds of coaches going off and a signal was not the cause. ![]() Peace
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Who said anything about coaches going off? It's a bad signal because it opens the door to double calls (foul/no-foul situations). I invite you either to address that point or simply to assert that you intend to use a bad mechanic as you see fit.
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