T for both teams to start game

[truerookie]

This should have been a poll.

I vote for 1.

[Welpe]

Wouldn't the game start with a jump ball in this situation under NCAA rules?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

That was what was actually done. However, one of the officials at the game wasn't sure they had handled it properly said that they had called the NFHS and were told it should have started with a jump ball - which is why we were having the conversation at all. I don't know who they spoke with and am not sure whether it was the NFHS or state.

I feel sure it cannot be any type of double foul and don't understand why they would have received information that goes against what I read in the rules/case books - therefore my OP.

Whomever s/he talked to gave the incorrect information. 6.4.1A is an example (although it uses different reasons for the T) of this.

Originally Posted by Welpe

Wouldn't the game start with a jump ball in this situation under NCAA rules?

Yes, no matter the number of Ts. Any series of single non-flagrant Ts goes to POI -- which is the jump ball in this situation.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Yes, no matter the number of Ts. Any series of single non-flagrant Ts goes to POI -- which is the jump ball in this situation.

Not on the Men's side. Any dead ball contact T is not POI. You enforce that just like a high school T with the ball at the division line after the FTs.

Peace

[RookieDude]

First T at the 16 min. mark?

The officials were out watching warm-ups at the 16 min. mark?

Around these parts...we don't go out untill the 15 min. mark...and most times a little later.

"15/12/10/2" is our standard.

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

First T at the 16 min. mark?

The officials were out watching warm-ups at the 16 min. mark?

Around these parts...we don't go out untill the 15 min. mark...and most times a little later.

"15/12/10/2" is our standard.

We are to be on the court 20 minutes prior to tip. They don't allow the clock for warm-ups start, or teams on the court until we are there.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

We are to be on the court 20 minutes prior to tip. They don't allow the clock for warm-ups start, or teams on the court until we are there.

Maybe in your area. They start the clock when the teams hit the court in mine -- we're just expected to be ready to go then.

[zm1283]

Methinks the officials in the OP's area need to do some case book reading.

[Lotto]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not on the Men's side. Any dead ball contact T is not POI. You enforce that just like a high school T with the ball at the division line after the FTs.

In NCAAM, additionally, single non-contact flagrant technical fouls resume at the division line.

In NCAAW, only single flagrant technicals resume at the division line. A dead ball non-flagrant contact technical resumes play at POI.

[Texas Aggie]

While the rule says "at least 15 minutes" and your jurisdiction begins when you go on to the court, I think you are asking for trouble if you go out there before the 15 minute mark.

Why are they wanting you out at 20?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

While the rule says "at least 15 minutes" and your jurisdiction begins when you go on to the court, I think you are asking for trouble if you go out there before the 15 minute mark.

Why are they wanting you out at 20?

It's a state adaptation in WI that supersedes the NFHS rule. Period.

We are required to be there at 20:00 and that's the starting time on the clock.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

While the rule says "at least 15 minutes" and your jurisdiction begins when you go on to the court, I think you are asking for trouble if you go out there before the 15 minute mark.

Why are they wanting you out at 20?

I often find 15 minutes to be a long time. 20 would be even less fun......

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by Lotto

In NCAAW, only single flagrant technicals resume at the division line. A dead ball non-flagrant contact technical resumes play at POI.

I believe there is also something about losing the ball in NCAAW (but not NCAAM) for requesting an excessive timeout. Can you confirm? Where is the ensuing throw-in?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by sseltser

I believe there is also something about losing the ball in NCAAW (but not NCAAM) for requesting an excessive timeout. Can you confirm? Where is the ensuing throw-in?

Yes, the team loses the ball. the throw in is at the same spot (called "poi" in the rules book, even though that doesn't make much sense to me).