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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 08:12am
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As the starters were being introduced, I noticed one of them with a pink ankle bracelet. Stepped over to the coach and asked if he knew about his player wearing the ankle bracelet. He said he did and the player was showing it as a sign of support for her mother who was battling breast cancer. All the other girls on her team had pick shoelaces.
I let it go, would you?
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 08:23am
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As the starters were being introduced, I noticed one of them with a pink ankle bracelet. Stepped over to the coach and asked if he knew about his player wearing the ankle bracelet. He said he did and the player was showing it as a sign of support for her mother who was battling breast cancer. All the other girls on her team had pick shoelaces.
I let it go, would you?
I'll let it go if you can find the FED rule "jewelry is only illegal if it's worn on the ears, neck or wrist."
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 08:30am
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I'll let it go if you can find the FED rule "jewelry is only illegal if it's worn on the ears, neck or wrist."
Bob, now I'm a bit confused.

In a previous thread about belly rings, I sad to "ignore it."

You said.

"Disagree. Handle the same way."

(That is, handle the same way once you know about it. Look for earrings and nose or lip piercings, etc; don't look for navel or nipple piercings.)

So, are you going to ignore the ankle jewelry if you know about it, but the bely ring must come out? I would imagine the belly ring is probably more dangeous and could cause more injury. I'm just trying to get a read here so in my mind I can be consistent.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 08:32am
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Bob, now I'm a bit confused.

In a previous thread about belly rings, I sad to "ignore it."

You said.

"Disagree. Handle the same way."

(That is, handle the same way once you know about it. Look for earrings and nose or lip piercings, etc; don't look for navel or nipple piercings.)

So, are you going to ignore the ankle jewelry if you know about it, but the bely ring must come out? I would imagine the belly ring is probably more dangeous and could cause more injury. I'm just trying to get a read here so in my mind I can be consistent.
1) An ankle bracelt is covered under the same category as "earrings...". That is, look for it.

2) Whether you look for it or not, once you find it, enforce it.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 08:36am
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1) An ankle bracelt is covered under the same category as "earrings...". That is, look for it.

2) Whether you look for it or not, once you find it, enforce it.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 08:39am
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I let it go, would you?
Great cause...but I'd never allow it without previous explicit direction from a governing body. Religious and medical alert medals/bracelets are specifically covered in the rules. This one isn't.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 05:25pm
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You know, I am going to have to lean the other way here. Unless the governing body specifically says that this team has been warned about this before or something of that nature...I am letting this slide. I have lost too many people to this disease, and I just could not tell her she had to take it off....I understand all the implications if somone hangs a finger etc etc etc....there are just way bigger things in life than those little books that we all refer to.....IMHO
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 05:38pm
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Can't Convince Him Otherwise ...

I know that officials are not supposed to wear jewelry, except, possibly, a wedding band, but my parole officer won't allow me to take off my ankle bracelet for any reason. Not even for basketball officiating.
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Old Thu Feb 25, 2010, 10:47am
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I know that officials are not supposed to wear jewelry, except, possibly, a wedding band, but my parole officer won't allow me to take off my ankle bracelet for any reason. Not even for basketball officiating.
I saw this the other day in a men's league I officiated for. The player pulled his socks over the ankle bracelet and half way up his calf. I assume it was a ankle bracelet. It was that or he thought it fashionable to stuff a pack of cigarettes in their. I was too fearful to ask.

Assuming that a HS kid is required to have a monitoring bracelet, and his coach still wants him to play, what options does player A have to play?

Pull a sock over it (obvious bulge)? Take if off (obvious violation of the law)? None? (seems like best option to me)
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Old Thu Feb 25, 2010, 10:56am
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I saw this the other day in a men's league I officiated for. The player pulled his socks over the ankle bracelet and half way up his calf. I assume it was a ankle bracelet. It was that or he thought it fashionable to stuff a pack of cigarettes in their. I was too fearful to ask.

Assuming that a HS kid is required to have a monitoring bracelet, and his coach still wants him to play, what options does player A have to play?

Pull a sock over it (obvious bulge)? Take if off (obvious violation of the law)? None? (seems like best option to me)
He can't play with it on, and he can't take it off. One option left.
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Old Thu Feb 25, 2010, 11:41am
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I saw this the other day in a men's league I officiated for. The player pulled his socks over the ankle bracelet and half way up his calf. I assume it was a ankle bracelet. It was that or he thought it fashionable to stuff a pack of cigarettes in their. I was too fearful to ask.

Assuming that a HS kid is required to have a monitoring bracelet, and his coach still wants him to play, what options does player A have to play?

Pull a sock over it (obvious bulge)? Take if off (obvious violation of the law)? None? (seems like best option to me)
Intresting situation.

Technically, this is not jewelry....at least I don't think you'd ever find one in a jewelrey store/department unless it was being worn by someone robbing the place.
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Old Thu Feb 25, 2010, 12:25pm
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I saw this the other day in a men's league I officiated for. The player pulled his socks over the ankle bracelet and half way up his calf. I assume it was a ankle bracelet. It was that or he thought it fashionable to stuff a pack of cigarettes in their. I was too fearful to ask.

Assuming that a HS kid is required to have a monitoring bracelet, and his coach still wants him to play, what options does player A have to play?

Pull a sock over it (obvious bulge)? Take if off (obvious violation of the law)? None? (seems like best option to me)
As Cameron pointed out, a monitoring bracelet is NOT jewelry (it may have a similar name, but it is not, in my opinion, the same for the purpose of this discussion). I would think that this would fall in the area of potentially dangerous equipment. If the game officials do not see a danger in the monitoring device, the player should be allowed to play. If the referee feels the device is dangerous, that player should not be allowed to play.

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Old Thu Feb 25, 2010, 12:58pm
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Assuming that a HS kid is required to have a monitoring bracelet, and his coach still wants him to play, what options does player A have to play?
The only option imo would be to have a letter from the governing body(league or state) granting an exception to the rules and thus legalizing the wearing of the bracelet. If the onus is on an individual official to make a decision, you'd have to be goofy to allow it imo. Too much possible liability involved and your insurance may not be valid either if you ignore a plainly-written safety rule.

Sometimes the people that say "Oh, it's for a good cause. I'll allow it" forget that there might be other ramifications, such as losing their insurance coverage. Insurance coverage is usually based on full compliance of any applicable rules.


You can't label it as a guard or brace and simply have it padded and covered either. By rule the wearing of hard guards/braces are allowed for medical purposes only.

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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 06:08pm
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You know, I am going to have to lean the other way here. Unless the governing body specifically says that this team has been warned about this before or something of that nature...I am letting this slide. I have lost too many people to this disease, and I just could not tell her she had to take it off....I understand all the implications if somone hangs a finger etc etc etc....there are just way bigger things in life than those little books that we all refer to.....IMHO
I agree with your entire point....except for letting it slide.

There are things just way more important than the books or the game on the floor...so the player will not be playing with jewelry on. I wouldn't think to say they had to remove it...just that she can't play with it on. If they feel it is more important to wear the jewelry than it is to play, that is their choice.
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Old Wed Feb 24, 2010, 07:12pm
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You know, I am going to have to lean the other way here. Unless the governing body specifically says that this team has been warned about this before or something of that nature...I am letting this slide. I have lost too many people to this disease, and I just could not tell her she had to take it off....I understand all the implications if somone hangs a finger etc etc etc....there are just way bigger things in life than those little books that we all refer to.....IMHO
I might suggest to the player that if the bracelet was under her sock, I probably wouldn't notice it.
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