Count it?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ref3808

The push causes player A to take three steps, and THEN he shoots and makes the shot. So he was driving the lane when fouled but had not started the shooting motion? Why count the shot?

If he was pushed hard enough maybe intentional foul as well? Was there any play on the ball?

If he is gathering the ball in a habitual motion that starts the act of shooting, it's a shooting foul. However, as described, I would wave off the basket and award two shots.

I'm convinced that many of the officials in this area call a foul "on the floor" when it should really be a shooting foul. The act of shooting doesn't just refer to going up with the ball. Unfortunately, many of the coaches have the same misunderstanding and at least once a week think I'm crazy for awarding shots (or a goal and a shot) on a play that is clearly (within the rules) a foul in the act of shooting.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I'm convinced that many of the officials in this area call a foul "on the floor" when it should really be a shooting foul. The act of shooting doesn't just refer to going up with the ball. Unfortunately, many of the coaches have the same misunderstanding and at least once a week think I'm crazy for awarding shots (or a goal and a shot) on a play that is clearly (within the rules) a foul in the act of shooting.

I wouldn't doubt it. It's the same way around here. I get funny looks and questions too because I call something a shooting foul. I've heard the old "What, is this the NBA?" a couple times this year already.