10 second FT violation

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

I did not think you apply "Advantage/Disadvantage" for violations.

When in Rome, my friend. Let me say this; there are a few violations that, if applied strictly by rule, will lead to long and distinguished JV careers.

1. 10 second free throw
2. 3 seconds
3. palming
4. multiple fouls

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

When in Rome, my friend. Let me say this; there are a few violations that, if applied strictly by rule, will lead to long and distinguished JV careers.

1. 10 second free throw
2. 3 seconds
3. palming
4. multiple fouls

I don't agree with #3. Locally, if you don't call palming, you will stay at the JV level.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I don't agree with #3. Locally, if you don't call palming, you will stay at the JV level.

I would prefer it that way.

[just another ref]

My take on this is simple. This is a black and white call, no gray area. I don't see advantage/disadvantage as a consideration. But how long is long enough?
I am probably a bit tardy in starting the count on this sometimes, but if I ever did reach 10, (hasn't happened yet) I see no reason not to make the call.

[Adam]

Have fun with that.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Have fun with that.

It's never happened in 24 years, I don't anticipate missing a lot of fun, one way or the other.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

It's never happened in 24 years, I don't anticipate missing a lot of fun, one way or the other.

Good point.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

When in Rome, my friend. Let me say this; there are a few violations that, if applied strictly by rule, will lead to long and distinguished JV careers.

1. 10 second free throw
2. 3 seconds
3. palming
4. multiple fouls

Perhaps that is why the NFHS has made each of these POEs in the past two couple of years. There are too many officials out there who have the mindset which you espouse here that making these calls is outside of the norm. It appears that the NFHS desires to change that culture.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Perhaps that is why the NFHS has made each of these POEs in the past two couple of years. There are too many officials out there who have the mindset which you espouse here that making these calls is outside of the norm. It appears that the NFHS desires to change that culture.

Let me ask you this, Nevada. How many 3 second calls do you make per game? Or how many per season?

You may well be right, but as Rut is fond of saying, I don't work for the NFHS. If I start making the call when 55 has his foot on the lane line out of play, I'll be doing freshman ball. If I don't learn then, I'll be working middle school ball.

As for palming, I agree. Again, however, I don't work for the NFHS, I work for my association.