T Up a Fan?!?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

However, from my understanding, the only ones allowed on the floor during an injury timeout are supposed to be the coach & medical personnel (perhaps the parent coming on the floor was an EMT or nurse).

Perhaps, and perhaps he was a street car conductor or a fry cook. (Billy Mac will explain later)

Where does this information come from?

[biggravy]

If he comes on the floor and just checks on his daughter not realizing, he probably gets told the rule. He may not know. As soon as he starts in it's BUH BYE.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by chseagle

That's any parent's reaction when their child gets hurt, no matter the age.

However, from my understanding, the only ones allowed on the floor during an injury timeout are supposed to be the coach & medical personnel (perhaps the parent coming on the floor was an EMT or nurse).

Originally Posted by just another ref

Perhaps, and perhaps he was a street car conductor or a fry cook. (Billy Mac will explain later)

Where does this information come from?

I've seen enough injury timeouts in person, so was just going off of what I have witnessed.

When I was Boys' Basketball Manager, I had 1st hand experience in an injury timeout when one of our star players was pushed into the bleachers & was knocked unconscious for a few minutes. During that injury timeout, there was a bit of a gathering around (especially since he was on the sidelines), however a perimeter around him was kept open where the only ones near him was the coach & medical personnel. The parents were there but were not directly at his side until he got moved into the locker room for further assessment.

[representing]

When my sister played varsity basketball, my mom was the type to run onto the court if she was seriously hurt. Referring back to when I mentioned my sister was knocked out for just a few seconds, that was the only time (that I know of) that my mom actually went down onto the court to check on her. For me, I'm ok with it as long as it is just one person and it has to be a mom, dad or guardian (only because I don't want someone younger claiming to be a brother, sister, etc. and actually just be a fan with no relations). But like some have said, let GM manage with it and get away from the injured player once a coach or trainer comes to the player.

I've learned this from veteran officials... don't get in between an overprotective mother or father and her/his kid. That will cause even more problems or grief.

[Back In The Saddle]

From personal experience, I'll beckon the coach and make sure I'm nowhere near by the time he gets to his player.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by representing

When my sister played varsity basketball, my mom was the type to run onto the court if she was seriously hurt. Referring back to when I mentioned my sister was knocked out for just a few seconds, that was the only time (that I know of) that my mom actually went down onto the court to check on her. For me, I'm ok with it as long as it is just one person and it has to be a mom, dad or guardian (only because I don't want someone younger claiming to be a brother, sister, etc. and actually just be a fan with no relations). But like some have said, let GM manage with it and get away from the injured player once a coach or trainer comes to the player.

I've learned this from veteran officials... don't get in between an overprotective mother or father and her/his kid. That will cause even more problems or grief.

This is all well and good, but once the parent addresses me or so much as looks at me sideways, he'll be finished with that game.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by representing

When my sister played varsity basketball, my mom was the type to run onto the court if she was seriously hurt. Referring back to when I mentioned my sister was knocked out for just a few seconds, that was the only time (that I know of) that my mom actually went down onto the court to check on her. For me, I'm ok with it as long as it is just one person and it has to be a mom, dad or guardian (only because I don't want someone younger claiming to be a brother, sister, etc. and actually just be a fan with no relations). But like some have said, let GM manage with it and get away from the injured player once a coach or trainer comes to the player.

I've learned this from veteran officials... don't get in between an overprotective mother or father and her/his kid. That will cause even more problems or grief.

Absolutely NOT!
Each of these parents have signed medical waivers in order for their children to play on the team. During the contest someone else is to tend to them. So as soon as mommy or daddy steps onto the court a one-way ticket to the parking lot has been earned.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Each of these parents have signed medical waivers in order for their children to play on the team. During the contest someone else is to tend to them. So as soon as mommy or daddy steps onto the court a one-way ticket to the parking lot has been earned.

I don't know whether anybody signed any kind of waiver or not, but whether they did or didn't, I don't see how that relates to anything in the rule book.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I don't know whether anybody signed any kind of waiver or not, but whether they did or didn't, I don't see how that relates to anything in the rule book.

Here's what the general wording is on the Medical Emergency Authorization/Consent to treat form (thois text is from the sample form off the WIAA Website):

"As Parent or Legal Guardian, I authorize the team physician or, in his absence, a qualified physician to examine the above-named student and in the event of injury to administer emergency care and to arrange for any consultation by a specialist, including a surgeon, he deems necessary to insure proper care of any injury. Every effort will be made to contact parent or guardian to explain the nature of the problem prior to any involved treatment."

I know in WIAA Athletics, any person involved as a participant has to have this form on file with school before being allow to compete. In some school districts, I believe this also involves practices.

Additional on this form, the emergency contact info is required as well as the name of the physician responsible for the primary care of the student-athlete.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Here's what the general wording is on the Medical Emergency Authorization/Consent to treat form (thois text is from the sample form off the WIAA Website):

"As Parent or Legal Guardian, I authorize the team physician or, in his absence, a qualified physician to examine the above-named student and in the event of injury to administer emergency care and to arrange for any consultation by a specialist, including a surgeon, he deems necessary to insure proper care of any injury. Every effort will be made to contact parent or guardian to explain the nature of the problem prior to any involved treatment."

I know in WIAA Athletics, any person involved as a participant has to have this form on file with school before being allow to compete. In some school districts, I believe this also involves practices.

Additional on this form, the emergency contact info is required as well as the name of the physician responsible for the primary care of the student-athlete.

I don't see anything here about the parent being restricted from coming on the floor or doing anything else.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Absolutely NOT!
Each of these parents have signed medical waivers in order for their children to play on the team. During the contest someone else is to tend to them. So as soon as mommy or daddy steps onto the court a one-way ticket to the parking lot has been earned.

I may have signed a waiver allowing other qualified personnel to attend to my child if s/he is injured during a sporting activity, but I will not have signed away my rights as a parent to tend to my child.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I may have signed a waiver allowing other qualified personnel to attend to my child if s/he is injured during a sporting activity, but I will not have signed away my rights as a parent to tend to my child.

If my kid is injured that badly, I won't care to watch the rest of the game anyway.

That said, if the parent comes down and just deals with their child, I'll let GM make the call.

If the parent comes down and uses that opportunity to inform me of all the ways my mother went wrong when I was a child, I will make the call.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That said, if the parent comes down and just deals with their child, I'll let GM make the call.

If the parent comes down and uses that opportunity to inform me of all the ways my mother went wrong when I was a child, I will make the call.

Very well put.

[Back In The Saddle]

Totally agree. However, once I've beckoned the coach, I get as far away as I can get and remain there, hidden in plain sight, until it's time to resume my duties. Or until forced to get involved somehow, in which case I would take care of business.

My only objection here is to the ridiculous notion that by signing a medical waiver I am somehow prohibited from being directly involved in caring for my injured child.

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If my kid is injured that badly, I won't care to watch the rest of the game anyway.

That said, if the parent comes down and just deals with their child, I'll let GM make the call.

If the parent comes down and uses that opportunity to inform me of all the ways my mother went wrong when I was a child, I will make the call.

I think this says it best! Deal with what needs to be dealt with, don't go looking for grief. Remember emotions will be very high in these situations.