Ever have a hard time with OOB calls?

[representing]

Originally Posted by Hartsy

My last game was OK as far as my mechanics and calling violations and fouls, everything other than OOB calls anyhow. Seemed like every time I signaled direction and color, someone had a gripe about it. A few times they were probably right. Aside from pausing briefly before indicating possession and watching where the players start to move, anything I could do to keep this from happening? It seems to hit me every now and then. Maybe I was just getting more than my share of close calls. I don't mind going to the AP arrow on occassion, but not every time the ball lands OOB in my primary.

Do you mean in closely double-touched situations? As in, two opponents touching the ball near-simultaneous? For me, it happens more when I'm the Lead than when I am the Trail, and more in girls games than in boys. My theory is that first, Boys are able to jump higher and grab stronger than girls are. Secondly, this happens mostly during rebounds of a missed shot. So again, more as a Lead, more in girls games than in boys.

I know I just opened myself up for debates. I got a few minutes before i gotta get ready for my game tonight

[bas2456]

I think it's a mistake to watch the body language of the players. The onus is on you to make a decision, quickly and decisively. Sell it.

A close out of bounds is one of the toughest calls, IMO. We all kick one from time to time. Sell it and move on.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by bas2456

We all kick one from time to time. Sell it and move on.

Agreed. The OOB call may be the easiest call of all to sell. It doesn't require a lot of "finger brushing", pointing or gyrating. Just clearly state a color and point. Nothing else is required.

Oh, except maybe getting the ball back in play quickly for all of those that weren't "sold."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bas2456

I think it's a mistake to watch the body language of the players. The onus is on you to make a decision, quickly and decisively. Sell it.

A close out of bounds is one of the toughest calls, IMO. We all kick one from time to time. Sell it and move on.

I think you can use the players as a guide, but you should not rely on them to make what might be a close call. If everyone is heading in that direction and you are unsure, I have no problem if you make a call based on that. It is after all just one call and if everyone is convinced you are going in a certain direction, you can just go with that. But it also takes some art to do that and you cannot rely on this to always work. But then again I have also learned to not be too quick to point. I just blow the whistle and wait before I call the color, then point. But that took time to do that consistently.

Peace

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think you can use the players as a guide, but you should not rely on them to make what might be a close call. If everyone is heading in that direction and you are unsure, I have no problem if you make a call based on that. It is after all just one call and if everyone is convinced you are going in a certain direction, you can just go with that. But it also takes some art to do that and you cannot rely on this to always work. But then again I have also learned to not be too quick to point. I just blow the whistle and wait before I call the color, then point. But that took time to do that consistently.

Peace

Good point. I should have qualified my statement a little more. If you're looking to the players with an expression that says "I have no idea, help me out guys", then you're going to have 5 guys pointing one way and 5 pointing the other way. Then what do you do?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Good point. I should have qualified my statement a little more. If you're looking to the players with an expression that says "I have no idea, help me out guys", then you're going to have 5 guys pointing one way and 5 pointing the other way. Then what do you do?

Have the captains arm wrestle for it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Good point. I should have qualified my statement a little more. If you're looking to the players with an expression that says "I have no idea, help me out guys", then you're going to have 5 guys pointing one way and 5 pointing the other way. Then what do you do?

Your partner should help you out then. I am just saying that if the play is "close" and all the players head in that direction, if you go in that direction (and you are unsure in the first place) no one is going to give you much crap if you go in the direction everyone thinks it should be going. And if you ultimately get it wrong, it is not the end of the world that happens from time to time. That ball has a funny way of bouncing from time to time.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Good point. I should have qualified my statement a little more. If you're looking to the players with an expression that says "I have no idea, help me out guys", then you're going to have 5 guys pointing one way and 5 pointing the other way. Then what do you do?

Answer: Don't do that. Use the clues subtlely.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Answer: Don't do that. Use the clues subtlely.

Sometimes just the body language of the head down, shoulders slumped, or the pained look of a player involved will tip you off.

Additionally, in a thirty point blowout, if I'm guessing, you know who is getting the ball.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Additionally, in a thirty point blowout, if I'm guessing, you know who is getting the ball.

The squirrel?