Your Signal Peeves?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by tomegun

OK gentlemen. I will back away slowly...and I'm back!

I think I get the point of the thread. Is the stop sign a federation mechanic? I ask that question seriously 1) I don't have a book with me now and 2) I don't use it anyway...ever.

It's not, but I believe the officials manual also instructs to report fouls with one hand.

Waving hands at the buzzer to end a period (think canceling a basket) when there was no shot attempted or the shot was in time but no good. Hand straight up in the air people.

Also, blowing your whistle in this situation. What's wrong with just letting the buzzer do its job?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fiasco

It's not, but I believe the officials manual also instructs to report fouls with one hand.



Also, blowing your whistle in this situation. What's wrong with just letting the buzzer do its job?

Because the official, not the horn, declares the quarter over.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Because the official, not the horn, declares the quarter over.

5-6-2

"Each quarter or extra period ends when the signal illuminates or sounds indicating time has expired, as in 1-14"

(obvious exceptions not included)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fiasco

5-6-2

"Each quarter or extra period ends when the signal illuminates or sounds indicating time has expired, as in 1-14"

(obvious exceptions not included)

Obvious exceptions are important since those are what usually actually end a quarter.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Obvious exceptions are important since those are what usually actually end a quarter.

Yes, they are important.

But they're still exceptions. Your statement:

Because the official, not the horn, declares the quarter over.

Is only true in regards to a few (4) exceptions.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Yes, they are important.

But they're still exceptions. Your statement:


Is only true in regards to a few (4) exceptions.

Maybe, but most quarters end with an attempted shot, at least around here. Do you let the ball simply fall and hit the ground and not acknowledge the shot attempt has ended with a whistle?

Around here, all quarters end with a whistle, regardless of the circumstances (except a made basket for most officials). It's expected. It's taught at clinics and camps.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Maybe, but most quarters end with an attempted shot, at least around here. Do you let the ball simply fall and hit the ground and not acknowledge the shot attempt has ended with a whistle?

Did you not read where I just said that this is an exception to the rule, not the rule itself?

Around here, all quarters end with a whistle, regardless of the circumstances (except a made basket for most officials). It's expected. It's taught at clinics and camps.

Like I said, that may be what you are taught, but your statement that the whistle ends the quarter at all times and not the buzzer is inaccurate according to the rule book.

[fullor30]

The 'old pro' who gives the lazy little fist pump to start the clock.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by fullor30

what job does the buzzer do?

5-6-2

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by fiasco

5-6-2

So if ball is inbounded and suddenly horn goes off for a late player entry, you stop game because it went off?

I was always taught, yes, horn goes off but we need a stop clock signal and a short toot at end of period

Every clinic I've ever been to in Chicago area stresses this.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I was always taught, yes, horn goes off but we need a stop clock signal and a short toot at end of period

You may have been taught this, but the fact is that it's not in the rule book. The horn ends the period, with the exception of 4 scenarios. Using a whistle outside of those 4 scenarios is redundant.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fiasco

You may have been taught this, but the fact is that it's not in the rule book. The horn ends the period, with the exception of 4 scenarios. Using a whistle outside of those 4 scenarios is redundant.

Do you whistle in subs?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Do you whistle in subs?

If I need to get their attention because the clock operator didn't buzz them in I might. But as a general rule, no. Why? Is that a mechanic I'm not aware of?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fiasco

If I need to get their attention because the clock operator didn't buzz them in I might. But as a general rule, no. Why? Is that a mechanic I'm not aware of?

Check the NFHS Mechanics Manual. Something they slipped in recently.

I was thinking about looking to see if there's guidance on an end-of-quarter whistle, but I've already packed my bag for tonight and it's in the trunk of my car in the garage. Garage unheated, I'm still in my workout clothes, so I'll look later.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by fiasco

You may have been taught this, but the fact is that it's not in the rule book. The horn ends the period, with the exception of 4 scenarios. Using a whistle outside of those 4 scenarios is redundant.

Redundant is good thing when officiating.