Your Signal Peeves?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Obvious exceptions are important since those are what usually actually end a quarter.

Yes, they are important.

But they're still exceptions. Your statement:

Because the official, not the horn, declares the quarter over.

Is only true in regards to a few (4) exceptions.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Yes, they are important.

But they're still exceptions. Your statement:


Is only true in regards to a few (4) exceptions.

Maybe, but most quarters end with an attempted shot, at least around here. Do you let the ball simply fall and hit the ground and not acknowledge the shot attempt has ended with a whistle?

Around here, all quarters end with a whistle, regardless of the circumstances (except a made basket for most officials). It's expected. It's taught at clinics and camps.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Maybe, but most quarters end with an attempted shot, at least around here. Do you let the ball simply fall and hit the ground and not acknowledge the shot attempt has ended with a whistle?

Did you not read where I just said that this is an exception to the rule, not the rule itself?

Around here, all quarters end with a whistle, regardless of the circumstances (except a made basket for most officials). It's expected. It's taught at clinics and camps.

Like I said, that may be what you are taught, but your statement that the whistle ends the quarter at all times and not the buzzer is inaccurate according to the rule book.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Did you not read where I just said that this is an exception to the rule, not the rule itself?



Like I said, that may be what you are taught, but your statement that the whistle ends the quarter at all times and not the buzzer is inaccurate according to the rule book.

Really, why is this important? So important that you took the time to quote chapter and verse on something so trivial?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Really, why is this important? So important that you took the time to quote chapter and verse on something so trivial?

Because you made a statement unsupported by rule, and I was attempting to clarify for officials out there who might take you at your word.

It's common practice around here, if you haven't noticed.

All you had to say is "my bad, you're right" and it would have been over. But you and fullor30 are trying to justify why the practice is necessary based on everything but the rule book.

ETA: And you, if you forgot, were the one who questioned my pet peeve. So, why was that so important that you took the time to question something that is fully supported by the rule book?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Because you made a statement unsupported by rule, and I was attempting to clarify for officials out there who might take you at your word.

It's common practice around here, if you haven't noticed.

All you had to say is "my bad, you're right" and it would have been over. But you and fullor30 are trying to justify why the practice is necessary based on everything but the rule book.

You know, I've been here a while. You'll never see me getting down and dirty with such minutiae, though. It bores me.

I would rather emphasize to others here that we (1) officiate with the rulebook, not using the rulebook as a script and (2) what is common practice locally is always more important to your advancement and success than what is explicitly written in those books.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

You know, I've been here a while. You'll never see me getting down and dirty with such minutiae, though. It bores me.

Interesting, then, why you started the minutiae to begin with.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I would rather emphasize to others here that we (1) officiate with the rulebook, not using the rulebook as a script and (2) what is common practice locally is always more important to your advancement and success than what is explicitly written in those books.

That's all well and good, but maybe next time you shouldn't say

Because the official, not the horn, declares the quarter over.

because to me, that reads like an official declaration of the way things are, not the way you're told to do things in your area.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Because you made a statement unsupported by rule, and I was attempting to clarify for officials out there who might take you at your word.

It's common practice around here, if you haven't noticed.

All you had to say is "my bad, you're right" and it would have been over. But you and fullor30 are trying to justify why the practice is necessary based on everything but the rule book.

ETA: And you, if you forgot, were the one who questioned my pet peeve. So, why was that so important that you took the time to question something that is fully supported by the rule book?

Cause in many areas of the country, you'd be the only one not blowing his whistle. In that case, it's not a pet peeve, it's a failure to understand what's expected of you.

Fine, I'll go get the manual. Not that I treat it like a bible, but a rulebook is certainly not going to tell officials when to sound whistles and when not to sound whistles.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Because you made a statement unsupported by rule, and I was attempting to clarify for officials out there who might take you at your word.

It's common practice around here, if you haven't noticed.

All you had to say is "my bad, you're right" and it would have been over. But you and fullor30 are trying to justify why the practice is necessary based on everything but the rule book.
ETA: And you, if you forgot, were the one who questioned my pet peeve. So, why was that so important that you took the time to question something that is fully supported by the rule book?

Hey, don't drag me into your mud puddle with rich. You brought it up as a pet peeve and I'm telling you what every clinic does around here. I never blew it until I was chastised by a few guys. To me it dots the i's crosses the T's.

We start the game with a whistle, we end it that way. You do whatever you feel comfy with.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Hey, don't drag me into your mud puddle with rich. You brought it up as a pet peeve and I'm telling you what every clinic does around here. I never blew it until I was chastised by a few guys. To me it dots the i's crosses the T's.

We start the game with a whistle, we end it that way. You do whatever you feel comfy with.

Now you've done it. I'm sure someone will say the game starts with the opening tip.